American gothic lolitas

[Ponpon]

Gothic lolita is soo cute, a friend of mine is totally obsessed with it and made her own dress! (because here in holland you have to travel miles and pay a LOT to buy one there is only one shop!!)
But there's a girl i sometimes see walking around and she's very tall and sorta chunky and she has all the nice clothes but it doesn't really suit her

Oh and the stares, just screw those standard people, i get it all the time too because my clothes are also always a bit off, but im from delft, people already stare here if i wear my knee-length trench coat =|

[DivineBled]

Originally Posted by Ponpon

Gothic lolita is soo cute, a friend of mine is totally obsessed with it and made her own dress! (because here in holland you have to travel miles and pay a LOT to buy one there is only one shop!!)
But there's a girl i sometimes see walking around and she's very tall and sorta chunky and she has all the nice clothes but it doesn't really suit her

Oh and the stares, just screw those standard people, i get it all the time too because my clothes are also always a bit off, but im from delft, people already stare here if i wear my knee-length trench coat =|

just because she's chunky? That sounds alittle shallow-minded to me. Anyway, lolita is an okay style, my band-mate dresses Gothik Lolita

[Ponpon]

Originally Posted by DivineBled

just because she's chunky? That sounds alittle shallow-minded to me. Anyway, lolita is an okay style, my band-mate dresses Gothik Lolita

I'm everything but shallow-minded, what i'm trying to say is that it just doesn't look ok on her. She's looks like a 30 year old woman wearing baby-clothes, not making her look cute at all, i think she's even taller than me with her wooden geisha shoes and i'm almost 6'2. She should pick out the clothes more carefully. Don't get me wrong, she can wear whatever she likes but it's like.. a grandmother dressing up like ginger spice from the spice girls =\

[gloomth]

I dont think age/weight/height should have anything to do with whether a certain style suits someone.

Thats really vain, shallow, and generally mean.
Do you want people judging you like that???

it would be a better world if people didnt think/say things like that. no offence.

People should be able to wear whatever makes them happy.

Im goth, old-school goth, and have been for aeons- I dont forsee that changing and Im sure when Im in my 40s people might look at me askance in my velvet dresses and fishnets, with my tattoos. Theyll assume Im corrupting my nonexistant children or theirs, that I ought to be settled down and being a mommy or something. I truly HATE it when people just ASSUME by your appearance and age what your life involves.

Im not going to "give up" being gothic because its a part of who i am. Im not doing it for shock, Id dress this way even if no one ever even looked at me.

So if that lady is in her 30s (oh man that isnt old. lemme tell yah heh) what would you like her wearing? Soccer mom outfits???
Not every woman wants to be a soccer mom.

I say commend that lady for dressing differently, for having the preverbial balls to do it day in day out. Kudos!

[Cyasarin]

I think the gothic lolita style is absolutely fabulous. I actually think more Americans should try it. It's getting a bit dull here.

And I agree with gloomth, it doesn't matter your weight/height/etc. If you don't have a problem with only a few people thinking that it does, oh well, they'll get over it. It's not their body and they can't tell you how to dress. Who says what they're wearing isn't right for their body type or age? People should be able to wear whatever makes them happy without other people judging them. It's against a lot of people's religion to judge, too. It's against mine.

However, I don't have much experience with disapproval. I occasionally wear clothes just as eye popping as gothic lolita clothes, and the only comments I get are, "ZOMG! You look awesome!" "I love those/your boots/makeup/clothes!" and "Your outfit is so hot!" And these comments are from rednecks and preps and all types of people, not just goths and my friends. I do get some comments like this from teachers: "You always dress in the weirdest clothes." It's still not considered negative.

But that's just my school. The people there are very respectful and pretty open minded, so I can't say that anyone trying the style would get the same compliments.

But, yeah, just go out dressed however you want and ignore everyone that looks at you negatively. It works for me.

[DragonShade]

Lolitas SAIKOU DESU!!! I love seeing girls wearing Lolitas...So doll-like which is good! lol.

[Ponpon]

Originally Posted by gloomth

I dont think age/weight/height should have anything to do with whether a certain style suits someone.

Thats really vain, shallow, and generally mean.
Do you want people judging you like that???

it would be a better world if people didnt think/say things like that. no offence.

People should be able to wear whatever makes them happy.

Im goth, old-school goth, and have been for aeons- I dont forsee that changing and Im sure when Im in my 40s people might look at me askance in my velvet dresses and fishnets, with my tattoos. Theyll assume Im corrupting my nonexistant children or theirs, that I ought to be settled down and being a mommy or something. I truly HATE it when people just ASSUME by your appearance and age what your life involves.

Im not going to "give up" being gothic because its a part of who i am. Im not doing it for shock, Id dress this way even if no one ever even looked at me.

So if that lady is in her 30s (oh man that isnt old. lemme tell yah heh) what would you like her wearing? Soccer mom outfits???
Not every woman wants to be a soccer mom.

I say commend that lady for dressing differently, for having the preverbial balls to do it day in day out. Kudos!

Ok, i'm going to desperately try and crawl out of the hole i dug for myself here. I don't mean it the way you think. Maybe i accidentaly sounded like that, didn't mean it. I'm not shallow-minded, i'm not vain and i am most certainly not mean. I don't want to judge her in a bad way, i know what it feels like because i have always been judged negatively for what kind of person i am etc etc blablah.

All i was trying to say is that if you put a cute little japanese (or wherever from) gothic lolita next to the girl i sometimes see the style would look way better on the other girl.
And i didn't say she should give up the way she dresses, and i think it's great that she dares to dress unique every day. I'm studying to be a fashion designer and am also trying to look unique every day and i also get the stares. All i'm saying is that she could look better (keeping her own style) by giving it a little extra thought

I hang around with all kinds of people, also goths (don't own any gothic clothes but love it) and i am not judging anyone, just saying that within a style you have people who dress better than others. The ginger-spice grandma comparison was a little too much, said that coz i was trying to be extra convincing because someone said i sounded shallow-minded. Wich, again, i am not (really really relaly so not ) and after this i hope not too many people will think that i am =S
sorry if i also offended anyone else with the previous post

[gloomth]

Originally Posted by Ponpon

Ok, i'm going to desperately try and crawl out of the hole i dug for myself here. I don't mean it the way you think. Maybe i accidentaly sounded like that, didn't mean it. I'm not shallow-minded, i'm not vain and i am most certainly not mean. I don't want to judge her in a bad way, i know what it feels like because i have always been judged negatively for what kind of person i am etc etc blablah.

All i was trying to say is that if you put a cute little japanese (or wherever from) gothic lolita next to the girl i sometimes see the style would look way better on the other girl.
And i didn't say she should give up the way she dresses, and i think it's great that she dares to dress unique every day. I'm studying to be a fashion designer and am also trying to look unique every day and i also get the stares. All i'm saying is that she could look better (keeping her own style) by giving it a little extra thought

I hang around with all kinds of people, also goths (don't own any gothic clothes but love it) and i am not judging anyone, just saying that within a style you have people who dress better than others. The ginger-spice grandma comparison was a little too much, said that coz i was trying to be extra convincing because someone said i sounded shallow-minded. Wich, again, i am not (really really relaly so not ) and after this i hope not too many people will think that i am =S
sorry if i also offended anyone else with the previous post

Oh no i wasnt trying to sacrifice you or anything. Im sorry if you felt vilified, it wasnt an attack on you personally- more an attack on the general assumption that society has that only SOME people can wear some things.

It creates a world where lots of people dont feel they can express themselves truly because of judgement and expectations. Which is sad, to me. I would love to live in a world where people could wear anything they liked with impunity.


Im sure youre not a shallow person.


We should all just dress as crazy as we like and not give a damn what anyone says. Start a revolution lol

[Ponpon]

Crisis that makes me happy, i felt all mean and.. judgy especially because i want the same revolution

[Mietta]

A lolita-revolution... that would be great... almost like heaven