Jrock Makeup for Caucasians

[Artvampire]

They can't do it because they don't have Asian facial features!

If I seriously tried I'm sure I could pull it off, but I'm not trying to be something I am not.

Originally Posted by Salvanas

I have yet to see a Caucasian pull off VK make up. It ends up looking terrible, and people end up making a fool of themselves.

[Artvampire]

Like Korean???

Originally Posted by xyzone

What about other races, can they pull it off?

[xyzone]

Originally Posted by Artvampire

Like Korean???

I meant even more generally, apart from white or Asian. But Koreans can't??

[Artvampire]

Koreans have Asian features, I was obviously joking at how non-specific your comment was.

Originally Posted by xyzone

I meant even more generally, apart from white or Asian. But Koreans can't??

[YoshimiTheEthereal]

Sorry I haven't commented in a while! I've been busy . . .

ArtVampire, you look AMAZING! That's what I'm trying to do -- have a VK look while not just trying to look like an Asian, and to look original and in a way that flatters me. Thank you for the help! I'm also androgynous, too, so I don't care about looking beautiful or feminine or whatever, I just want to look good.

Cakes, you've also helped. Thank you!

I'm thinking of posting a pic of myself with my hair fixed and only foundation on and seeing what kind of VK style you guys think would suit me the best. I'm having a hard time deciding. I just have to find the camera first . . . ^^;

[Cakes]

I'll keep an eye out for your pictures! It's always a pleasure to be able to advise.

Also, I approve most heartily of your being a Kamijo fan~. <3

[PockyMePink]

Originally Posted by Salvanas

I have yet to see a Caucasian pull off VK make up. It ends up looking terrible, and people end up making a fool of themselves.

Then you're not looking very hard

There's so much discouragement in this thread, what's up with that? An Asian has just as good of chance of ruining VK as a caucasion does. It's the stylists that make it look good, not the race. At least, that's my opinion

[Cakes]

Originally Posted by Salvanas

I have yet to see a Caucasian pull off VK make up. It ends up looking terrible, and people end up making a fool of themselves.

Hmm...




Halfway round the eyes eyeliner, check.
Nude lipgloss, check.
Pale powder, check.

It's not over-the-top, but it's the basics of a visual kei makeup look. I suppose the blusher's a bit dubious, but I don't usually wear it.

Please excuse the hair and ghetto!shirt too, as well as the odd face. It's been a long day.

But does it really look so awful? I think it depends what kind you mean, you're being so general about it.

[Salvanas]

Originally Posted by Cakes

Hmm...




Halfway round the eyes eyeliner, check.
Nude lipgloss, check.
Pale powder, check.

It's not over-the-top, but it's the basics of a visual kei makeup look. I suppose the blusher's a bit dubious, but I don't usually wear it.

Please excuse the hair and ghetto!shirt too, as well as the odd face. It's been a long day.

But does it really look so awful? I think it depends what kind you mean, you're being so general about it.

To me, that's not the VK style I was talking about.

To me, that looks like you've just put some make up on as if you're about to go out for a night out. And it looks good, may I add.

I guess it depends on what VK style we're talking about. Let me elaborate on the style I am talking about.

For example, the old Dir en grey look, and some of the more darker look, with the crazy hair, and spikes with the heavy make-up. That's the style I'm talking about.

And please note, I'm not saying it's impossible. I said I've yet to see a Caucasian pull off VK properly without looking like a fool. I'd be pleased to be wrong, but so far I haven't been proved wrong, in my eyes.

Many Caucasian's end up looking scene, emo or gothic.

[NanteNa]

Originally Posted by PockyMePink

Then you're not looking very hard

There's so much discouragement in this thread, what's up with that? An Asian has just as good of chance of ruining VK as a caucasion does. It's the stylists that make it look good, not the race. At least, that's my opinion

I disagree on the race part. The VK style makeup was fitted to suit Asian eyelids - as the style was founded in Asia. That's why they use the eyeliner half-way around the eye and make them look rather round in the outer V - to make the eye itself look rounded and, actually, more caucasian. Also eyeliner-dominated looks like these...





... are to keep focus on the crease and the round-ness of the eyes. As you can obviously tell the dark colors are focused in the outer V and even crosses the line-angle that is used for measuring eyebrow-plucking. The whole point is to make the eye look caucasian.

Most white people don't have the weak crease and the delicate lids that this makeup style is designed for. That's why it looks like crap on pretty much any other nationality than slanted eyed ones - because their eyes are already ROUND. It's all about the makeup technique that's been adapted to fit the slanted eye's proportions.

I have only seen ONE white person pull off this kind of makeup. ONE person - out of the many n00bs trying to work this look. I'd say.. unless you REALLY know what makeup does to your face in shape, proportions etc. STAY AWAY from these kinds of looks. That's just my opinion.