Do you think overweight girls or thinner girls...

[MikeB]

Originally Posted by WingsToDiscovery

Not to seem harsh, but your first paragraph really is BS. It's unfortunate that most people do not understand that not everyone is built the same way, but your justification is almost hilarious, and if I were a large person, I would probably feel insulted if my counter-defense for being big is that I can survive bad weather, just like whales.

That may be taken as offensive indeed, but that doesn't alter the truth of the argument, one way or the other. We human beings are animals and whether you like it or not, we are genetically identical to our homosapien Stone Age ancestors. Despite living in technologically advanced societies complete with various supermarkets, trains, cars, elavators and lifts we have not physically changed from being hunter-gatherers who had to endure shortages of food. Consequently, we are naturally inclined look for fat, sugar, starch and salt, because, prehistorically speaking, these things were very hard to find. So, when we see them in great amounts, our bodies find it tough to say "no".

Fat collects in two forms -

White adipose tissue - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Stored for energy and insulation.

Combine that with people living in colder climates, whereby heat is also a scarce commodity, then fat is very valuable indeed; especially brown fat which can be burned by the body to produce heat.

Brown adipose tissue - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is increasingly well understood by the scientific community.

The differences between how we have evolved, and the amount of food we have access to now is at the very heart of the issue. Evolutionarily speaking, we aren't different to our Neolithic ancestors, who didn't have access to McDonalds and if they did, they'd be fucking huge.

This is a good book to get started -

Amazon.com: Waistland: The R/evolutionary Science Behind Our Weight and Fitness Crisis (9780393062168): Deirdre Barrett: Books

Originally Posted by WingsToDiscovery

The "too skinny" argument is also pretty crappy. Being too skinny can cause health complications, but we're talking almost malnourished people, on average. Whereas someone can be as low as 15-25 lbs overweight and already begin to enter dangerous territory.
I like to use the "Money doesn't buy you happiness" analogy. I happen to disagree with that statement. The reason being, for every one filthy rich person you can find that's unhappy, I can find 1,000 impoverished people who are just as unhappy. Just as you can find one person who is skinny to the point of health complications, and I can find you 1,000 people who are pre-diabetics or worse. It's all relative.

Not sure about the money happiness thing, I'm afraid you lost me there... Being too skinny does cause serious health complications if you're anorexic or bolemic, something which the fashion industry does seem to some extent encourage. This is similarly well understood -

Fashion industry 'fuelling the rise in eating disorders' - Telegraph

Eating Disorders Somehow Still Occuring In Fashion Industry

Originally Posted by WingsToDiscovery

As for changing the market to fit bigger people, would this be a positive or a negative? All things equal, most large people are fat, not just "big boned." So would we be encouraging the idea that it is OK to be fat, and that you'll be rewarded with alternative clothing styles no matter how much weight you want to put on? All while isolating the "small" crowd and simple reversing the roles?

Fat isn't always unhealthy -

Obese people not always unhealthy - Telegraph

That's not the whole point, it's an economic issue as much as anything else, though skinny people can be just as unhealthy -

Fat risk even if you are healthy weight - Telegraph

My point was this, to be a successful company you need to sell products, if you want to sell lots of products then why restrict your product range to within a certain size when large proportions of the population exist outside of that size.

Originally Posted by WingsToDiscovery

It's unfortunate that your sister was bullied though, especially if she wasn't even that big to begin with. People's perception of what qualifies as being big is starting to become skewed.

Cheers mate, but that's the reality girls have to live with today...

[Emilia]

In my own opinion, I think that bigger girls look cuter in it than the skinnies. If you think about it, Lolita is pretty much based off of old Victorian and 19th century dress. In those days, it was the fat ones who were considered attractive. This opinion might also be a little biased. (life-long civil war reenactor) I've seen a lot of bigger people wearin the vintage style in my day. Haha. But I think that both skinny people and bigger people can pull it off.

Who has the right to say that you can't wear something because of your size? It's expression. Why deny somebody that right just because they "don't fit the standard?" Beauty isn't only on the exterior, but the interior as well. Someone can be skinny and beautiful, but still be hideous on the inside. It all comes back to judging. Don't judge. Didn't we learn that as children?

[crossline]

regarding size and shape. i'm sure there are a few ways to alter and redesign clothes. the "fat" girls clothes may not look great with the "skinny" one and vice versa. Virtual Fashion Works here's where i got my designing toy. it's totally fun.

[colovegirl]

I am really indignant. Why a fat girl can't wear a lolita dress? I am fat girl and still wear my lolita dress. I think my sweet lolita dress help accentuate my cuteness.

[EpicPhysicist]

I think some fat girls can pull it off. But not very overweight. ON A SIDENOTE:
I always throw up my food when seeing fat girls with booty shorts( NO OFFENSE) But dude its ******* gross. like the legfat and assfat jus jiggling to no extent. its like COVER IT UP>!!!!

[StephanieJune]

I think it depends a lot on the person, their atittude, and fashion sense. Ive seen some skinny chicks that couldnt pull off loli because it just didnt suit them whereas someone overweight totally rocked the look.

[Qayin]

It's their body everything is up to them. I admit that sometimes I see people wear or have hairstyle that's very mismatch to them, but do I have the right to stop them? NO! because it's their right so eventhough I don't like them, I got to respect them. That's the rule of the society. You don't need to agree, but you got to respect!

[NanteNa]

I think slender girls pull it off better. The Lolita style though has never really appealed to my taste. It reminds me of little girls, and I'm not really into that loli pornish stuff. >_<"
I think girls, that are overweight, should stop trying to squeeze themselves into something that doesn't fit. Not all clothes will fit EVERYONE - and that's a fact.

[Tsuzuki]

Originally Posted by NanteNa

I think slender girls pull it off better. The Lolita style though has never really appealed to my taste. It reminds me of little girls, and I'm not really into that loli pornish stuff. >_<"
I think girls, that are overweight, should stop trying to squeeze themselves into something that doesn't fit. Not all clothes will fit EVERYONE - and that's a fact.

"trying to squeeze themselves into something that doesn't fit" .... lol sweety never go to Walmart then ~.~ scary stuff runs around there x3
like XXXXXXXXXL people try to wear L or M clothes >< I mean it looks horrible but the other thing is it must hurts alot ><

[NanteNa]

Originally Posted by TheLastFortnight

Girls can be mean sometimes...

Haha, you'd be surprised how many girls actually dress up to impress one another spite to impress their boyfriends or guys in general ; D You can say that we keep each other fit. Haha!

Originally Posted by Tsuzuki

"trying to squeeze themselves into something that doesn't fit" .... lol sweety never go to Walmart then ~.~ scary stuff runs around there x3
like XXXXXXXXXL people try to wear L or M clothes >< I mean it looks horrible but the other thing is it must hurts alot ><

I actually have a tshirt from walmart form the boys' department (no one saw that..). WITH SPIDERMAN! YEAHH! In general many Americans are obese - but they are a lot of people in a big country. So it makes sense.