Soup in Resturants

[TalnSG]

Originally Posted by Nyororin

You`re kidding, right?
As the original poster is actually concerned about eating properly, I very much doubt this is the case.

But you completely and totally fail to take into account some VERY important factors. This is a restaurant in the US. Last time I knew, the greater part of the US population does NOT know Japanese eating customs. Now, as the restaurant in question is obviously frequented by citizens of the country it is situated in, and is likely staffed by the same... NO ONE is going to be shocked or even NOTICE someone eating out of Japanese style. If the staff actually IS Japanese (a major rarity) there is only a slim chance they`ll notice if you are eating "properly".
But if you are in the US, where most people don`t know the customs to begin with... It simply does not matter.

I was not kidding at all. I was merely choosing not to refer to your post as insulting to Americans and ignorant.
Yuujiro has pointed out that in the restaurant he works in the patronage would be very aware of customs, and that is not unusual in major American cities.

American diners are far more aware of many international customs than they were even 20 years ago and your depiction of us is highly offensive.

[Nyororin]

Originally Posted by TalnSG

I was not kidding at all. I was merely choosing not to refer to your post as insulting to Americans and ignorant.
Yuujiro has pointed out that in the restaurant he works in the patronage would be very aware of customs, and that is not unusual in major American cities.

American diners are far more aware of many international customs than they were even 20 years ago and your depiction of us is highly offensive.

Umm, I think you`re forgetting that I am American. I visit the US regularly, and in my experience - outside of San Francisco - 95% of the people DO NOT know how to eat Japanese food according Japanese etiquette. If the customer was not Japanese to begin with, even in the big cities, most people didn`t follow Japanese etiquette. Normal, common sense etiquette? Yes.
I was in no way intending to be insulting about it - just stating a fact. I can bet you 95% of the Japanese population also has no clue how to eat according to a certain country`s etiquette. It`s a fact, not an insult. You seem to be assuming that I meant people in America eat like complete slobs and are incredibly horrifying. No. I meant that no one is likely to care whether you sip your soup out of a bowl or use a spoon to do so. Which even in Japan people don`t really care about. Even here they aren`t going to stare and whisper. That`s just silly.

It`s silly to put so much pressure that you can`t enjoy the food for fear of stepping on some little etiquette rule.

[manners]

I drink soup from the bowl.

[kenmei]

Originally Posted by Nyororin

Umm, I think you`re forgetting that I am American. I visit the US regularly, and in my experience - outside of San Francisco - 95% of the people DO NOT know how to eat Japanese food according Japanese etiquette. If the customer was not Japanese to begin with, even in the big cities, most people didn`t follow Japanese etiquette. Normal, common sense etiquette? Yes.
I was in no way intending to be insulting about it - just stating a fact. I can bet you 95% of the Japanese population also has no clue how to eat according to a certain country`s etiquette. It`s a fact, not an insult. You seem to be assuming that I meant people in America eat like complete slobs and are incredibly horrifying. No. I meant that no one is likely to care whether you sip your soup out of a bowl or use a spoon to do so. Which even in Japan people don`t really care about. Even here they aren`t going to stare and whisper. That`s just silly.

It`s silly to put so much pressure that you can`t enjoy the food for fear of stepping on some little etiquette rule.

I think you are right, with the exceptions of LA and Hawaii which both have pretty dense japanese populations. I live close to SF and we have a lot of Japanese restaurants run by Japanese but also the "fake" ones which you mentioned in your first post (usually run by koreans, sometimes chinese) which neither would give a crap. I usually avoid these restaurants because the quality isn't usually on par, but for most americans it might be hard to tell the difference between them.

[yuujirou]

Originally Posted by Nyororin

Umm, I think you`re forgetting that I am American. I visit the US regularly, and in my experience - outside of San Francisco - 95% of the people DO NOT know how to eat Japanese food according Japanese etiquette. If the customer was not Japanese to begin with, even in the big cities, most people didn`t follow Japanese etiquette. Normal, common sense etiquette? Yes.
I was in no way intending to be insulting about it - just stating a fact. I can bet you 95% of the Japanese population also has no clue how to eat according to a certain country`s etiquette. It`s a fact, not an insult. You seem to be assuming that I meant people in America eat like complete slobs and are incredibly horrifying. No. I meant that no one is likely to care whether you sip your soup out of a bowl or use a spoon to do so. Which even in Japan people don`t really care about. Even here they aren`t going to stare and whisper. That`s just silly.

It`s silly to put so much pressure that you can`t enjoy the food for fear of stepping on some little etiquette rule.

i actually enjoy sipping my noodles and NOT using a spoon too drink the soup thank you very much x]

and just because one person is ignorant of one culture doesn't necessarily make it right for a person of that culture too be ignorant of the former >.>'
hm.... hope that made sense... XDD
ok...
let's just say
that if your ignorant of my culture, it doesn't make it right for me too be ignorant of yours and use the fact that your ignorant of mine as a reason to be ignorant >.>
lol >.>''

anyway, this is america x]
can't we just be 'civil' for once?
and enjoy food 'properly'?
as in, in the manner that it was intended too be enjoyed?
o.O"

[MissMisa]

Well I have a little story.

I went to a Chinese restaurant the other day with my Mum and family, and we got this little bowl of 'stuff,' we didn't have a clue what it was. Everyone in the restaurant was chinese, so we were trying to see what they did with it because we didn't want to look silly or be rude xD In the end, my Mum asked the waiter and he was very kind and we all laughed even though it was rather embarrasing, my Mum thought maybe you supposed to drink it, but it was actually for washing your hands! Still, we'll know for next time and they didn't mind at all, they probably see it lots!

[yuujirou]

Originally Posted by MissMisa

Well I have a little story.

I went to a Chinese restaurant the other day with my Mum and family, and we got this little bowl of 'stuff,' we didn't have a clue what it was. Everyone in the restaurant was chinese, so we were trying to see what they did with it because we didn't want to look silly or be rude xD In the end, my Mum asked the waiter and he was very kind and we all laughed even though it was rather embarrasing, my Mum thought maybe you supposed to drink it, but it was actually for washing your hands! Still, we'll know for next time and they didn't mind at all, they probably see it lots!

haha xD
what colour was it and what was in it?

like, in restaurants in china... i remember my parents pouring hot tea into their cups and then dipping their utensils into it
then dumping out the tea, lol x.x'''
*lack of sanitation*

[MissMisa]

Originally Posted by yuujirou

haha xD
what colour was it and what was in it?

like, in restaurants in china... i remember my parents pouring hot tea into their cups and then dipping their utensils into it
then dumping out the tea, lol x.x'''
*lack of sanitation*

It was in a glass bowl, and it was sort of clear/browny, like a light stock or tea!

It smelt aromatic, like handwash so I presumed it was for cleaning hands but I didn't want to be hasty! So my mum asked then xD

[salbarawr]

i THiNK iHTS TRUE BECAUSE iF THEY REALLY ARENT TRADiATIONAL JAPANESE && NOT REALLY ACCUSTOMED TOT HE TRUE WAY OF EATiNG YOUR SOUP THEN THEY WOULDNT REALLY NOTiCE && BOTHER TO SAY ANYTHiNG

[rina26]

Originally Posted by salbarawr

i THiNK iHTS TRUE BECAUSE iF THEY REALLY ARENT TRADiATIONAL JAPANESE && NOT REALLY ACCUSTOMED TOT HE TRUE WAY OF EATiNG YOUR SOUP THEN THEY WOULDNT REALLY NOTiCE && BOTHER TO SAY ANYTHiNG

turn cap lock off please.