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12-14-2009, 11:26 PM
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 Actually, now you explain, that's pretty much what it appeared to be. This old friend of mine who was very rich, and well known at all small entertainment establishments in Kyoto, was treated as "special" by all establishments. When we were served the complimentary Chicken Sashimi, the feeling was special as if it was a really special gesture. The small Izakaya, would have had by memory six bar stools, very small, and very traditional Kyoto style. The husband and wife ran the place. Cheers - Oz 
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12-14-2009, 11:58 PM
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So I dread to think what might have been putting him off.
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12-15-2009, 11:11 AM
Ozkai is pretty much on the money.
If you met a japanese friend and they invited you over for sunday lunch, would you "respect" them more because they cooked a traditional sunday roast? or would you be a bit dissapointed that instead of experiencing some genuine Japanese culture, of home cooked food (from a packet of course :P ) , you got the kind of fare you could get in any pub? @pockymepink yes i understand what your saying, however the last 2 lines of your post apear to agree whith what you are quoting. (also i have dealt with this many many times, my favourite is when people show the number 2 with the back of thier hand facing out which to anyone from the uk is rather rude) you can tell if someone is offending you or not, thats not hard. Basic social skills are required for this, as i am sure you are aware. @Salv It's not about respect. Has nothing to do with respect. its about being yourself. worked example: you meet meet someone from a culture that waves with the left. outcome 1. Both parties try to apease the others culture so he waves with the right, you wave with the left. both look like silly social chameleons outcome 2. You wave with the right, he waves with the left. You understand that you are from different cultures. The genuine meaning of the greeting is understood by both. i chose not to address the other oxymoronic points made, hmm yes ignorance is a sweet flavour isn't it? if only i was still a teenager and knew everything in the world  @MMM point 1: As stated, citizen of the world. culture is no longer defined by where we are from, or who our parents are. it is also becomeing increasingly less inluenced by where we grow up/live though that is not to say that all is moving towards the world of a single tribe this is occationally refered to as Globalisation, you may have heard of it?? point 2: shhh, your wrong. there is a big difference between going out of your way to offend people, and not going out of your way to apease and be liked/respected. If you need to bend over backwards and use your knoledge of local customs and ettiquete to foster respect (to the point that if you did not you would not get respect), then thats respect is pretty shallow and probably only exists in your own mind. point 3: it happens everyday, on more than 3 occasions. i refer you to guns and roses (peace be upon them) "Live and let die" point 4: this kind of self proclaiming tripe deserves no response but you can have one any way. the response is: LOLZ @ U  as for butchering food, was in maccy D's the other day. saw South American tourist take pickle out of burger. have these people no shame!!!!
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12-15-2009, 12:32 PM
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you cut me with your rapier like wit. where did you learn to make such clever comments without even reading what your commenting on. your knee jerk reactions based on the lowest common denominator and less than basic understanding of the topics under discussion are a true gift to us all! Edit= you also missed the most important point in the whole post. PICKLE OUT OF BURGER thats even worse than putting ketchup on sushi, (hmmm i wonder what that would taste like?)
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12-15-2009, 01:20 PM
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I come from a highly Arabian background, and our culture is a lot about being a host. We find it very important to make the person very comfortable when we're hosting for them, and so we try all in our power to make them feel comfortable. If that means making them a meal, that would cater to them more, then so be it. Quote:
But I'll take the bait, since you've spent the time setting it out. Outcome 1, would be better in many cultured peoples eyes (Note: Cultured), and you would gain respect for going according to the culture if you are in their country. If you are, however, speaking about appeasing to cultures when you're in, let's say America, then that's a totally different thing. America's culture, is a mixed pot of different stews. You would live the American way there. I am talking about, let's say, if you went to a Japanese restaurant, or Japan. Then following the cultures is the way to go. To not do so, is disrespectful, and arrogant. Quote:
To presume yourself above cultures is wrong. I just pray that you don't come across someone you slight, that will take it up to you with force.
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12-15-2009, 01:28 PM
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Go and take a rest, PLEASE, for the sake of all of us! Cheers - Oz
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12-15-2009, 01:59 PM
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It was actually painful to watch. 
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12-15-2009, 02:51 PM
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im responding to your post (that had nothing to do with food), that makes you the bait. also I have been to the middle east (I like the way you say you are highly arabian background, does that mean your parents smoke alot of hash?) cultural differences, lets see. in most of the world, when you offer someone a can of drink you open the can and pour it into a glass. in the middle east the culture is to give the person a closed can and glass. if you actually go to the middle east. if you are invited into someones home you will always be offered food, (must refuse 3 times, then say yes) and drink. and if the drink is in the form of a can in "polite" society you will be offered the can sealed. anyway, i sense you are just trolling now. you show your world view to be small. well done also, you miss the cutical point. BURGER PICKLE??!!!
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12-15-2009, 08:48 PM
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But you need to do a little more research, Daf(t). Salavanas is not one who trolls, nor is his world view small. From what some of us know of him, he probably was paring down his world to something a small minded person would be sure to comprehend. The TRUE "critical point" has been missed by no one. It is your expounding of self-centered, arrogance that (as Salvanas pointed out) will someday place you in conflict with someone who responds to a cultural offense with violence. Which, in the case of willful disregard for the sensibilites of others, usually deserves Darwinian elimination.  Only an open mind and open heart can be filled with life. ********************* Find your voice; silence will not protect you.
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