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12-13-2009, 05:54 AM

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If you have psyched yourself out of eating fresh raw fish, then you have psyched yourself out of eating fresh raw fish.

It's all mental.
Chicken sashimi isn't raw fish good sir.
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If you have psyched yourself out of eating fresh raw fish, then you have psyched yourself out of eating fresh raw fish.

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Did you mean Chicken?

I find that more "creepy" than fish.


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Did you mean Chicken?

I find that more "creepy" than fish.
We are all taught in our own cultures what is acceptable and not acceptable to eat.

We are also taught that eating certain things raw or barely cooked is right or wrong.

And then we might go to another country where the beliefs we are taught are different than what our mother and fathers taught us.

And then we might eat raw chicken.

And the we might eat raw beef.

And they we might eat raw horse.

And then we might eat raw tuna.

And then we might eat raw whale.

And then we might eat raw sea urchin.

And then our reality may have been rocked because it tasted good.

And then our reality may have been rocked because we didn't get sick.
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We are all taught in our own cultures what is acceptable and not acceptable to eat.

We are also taught that eating certain things raw or barely cooked is right or wrong.

And then we might go to another country where the beliefs we are taught are different than what our mother and fathers taught us.

And then we might eat raw chicken.

And the we might eat raw beef.

And they we might eat raw horse.

And then we might eat raw tuna.

And then we might eat raw whale.

And then we might eat raw sea urchin.

And then our reality may have been rocked because it tasted good.

And then our reality may have been rocked because we didn't get sick.
I totally agree on the culture side, but it is just me personally.. I get overly squeemish with certain foods..

if I eat a piece of chicken and look hard enough at a black vein running through the flesh, it puts me right off.. It's a mind thing with me..

If I was to sit in a Japanese restaurant watching people eat raw meats, I would actually envy them wishing I could do the same..

My partner has eaten dog! She's Korean and she ate it when she was a child.. She said her mother cooked it..

That's hard for me to understand because she is a real dog lover..


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The fish are dead before they buy them.
Not always true, my uncle works in the oil industry and during the 80's and 90's he was hopping over to japan about 4 times a year. Needless to say, particularly pre-bubble there was a lot of the big business dinner, big host showing off kind of thing going on, particularly with one associate, Dr. O. who was something of a food buff. Anyway, Dr. O finds out my uncle has tried and liked sushi, so he says he'll take him to this top place in Tokyo he knows, the kind with no signs and you have to be introduced to or else you're not getting so much as a peek through the door.

They go, it's a very nice place with a big bar and lots of fish tanks. Uncle N. is thinking "This is worryingly reminiscent of places in China I know." Dr. O orders as my uncle can't speak a lick of Japanese and the chef whips a fish out of a tank, and fillets it right there and then. Sorry, no fiddling around with micro-machinery. Uncle N. gets a beautiful plate of gently twitching sashimi and the fish sits on the board still gasping, waiting for the other side to be filleted.

What seems strange to me is all the people yarking, " I could never eat sushi, raw fish is sooooo disgusting" though a mouthful of smoked salmon or soused herring.

I ate chicken sashimi and thought it was rather good >.>; Though I wouldn't eat it without the umeboshi dressing.
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Not always true, my uncle works in the oil industry and during the 80's and 90's he was hopping over to japan about 4 times a year. Needless to say, particularly pre-bubble there was a lot of the big business dinner, big host showing off kind of thing going on, particularly with one associate, Dr. O. who was something of a food buff. Anyway, Dr. O finds out my uncle has tried and liked sushi, so he says he'll take him to this top place in Tokyo he knows, the kind with no signs and you have to be introduced to or else you're not getting so much as a peek through the door.

They go, it's a very nice place with a big bar and lots of fish tanks. Uncle N. is thinking "This is worryingly reminiscent of places in China I know." Dr. O orders as my uncle can't speak a lick of Japanese and the chef whips a fish out of a tank, and fillets it right there and then. Sorry, no fiddling around with micro-machinery. Uncle N. gets a beautiful plate of gently twitching sashimi and the fish sits on the board still gasping, waiting for the other side to be filleted.

What seems strange to me is all the people yarking, " I could never eat sushi, raw fish is sooooo disgusting" though a mouthful of smoked salmon or soused herring.

I ate chicken sashimi and thought it was rather good >.>; Though I wouldn't eat it without the umeboshi dressing.
You can actually find a lot more "cut while still living" stuff in the country, along the coast. I can`t even begin to count how many "live" Aji (I don`t know what they`re called in English) I`ve had sliced up before my eyes. Grandmother walks down to the dock and buys them, then brings them home still flopping around in a bucket.
I`ve never actually had any twitch IN my mouth though.

Anyway, very very fresh sashimi is not just the territory of "secret" sushi bars hidden on back streets.

Chicken sashimi is kind of flavorless on it`s own. It`s REALLY good if you get it lightly grilled. Just enough that the outside it white, but the inside is still pink.


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You can actually find a lot more "cut while still living" stuff in the country, along the coast. I can`t even begin to count how many "live" Aji (I don`t know what they`re called in English) I`ve had sliced up before my eyes. Grandmother walks down to the dock and buys them, then brings them home still flopping around in a bucket.
I`ve never actually had any twitch IN my mouth though.

Anyway, very very fresh sashimi is not just the territory of "secret" sushi bars hidden on back streets.

Chicken sashimi is kind of flavorless on it`s own. It`s REALLY good if you get it lightly grilled. Just enough that the outside it white, but the inside is still pink.
I'd be surprised if you didn't. I mean they cut up live eels in both the UK and France and eat live oysters, purchase live crabs and lobsters, and we're supposedly pretty squeamish about such things.

Hell, even in Hirakata our local supermarket had a tanks by the fishmongers with a suspiciously high turnover. I'm pretty sure that was a 'pick it out and we'll prep it' deal.

Is that like a kind of chicken tatake?
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I'd be surprised if you didn't. I mean they cut up live eels in both the UK and France and eat live oysters, purchase live crabs and lobsters, and we're supposedly pretty squeamish about such things.

Hell, even in Hirakata our local supermarket had a tanks by the fishmongers with a suspiciously high turnover. I'm pretty sure that was a 'pick it out and we'll prep it' deal.

Is that like a kind of chicken tatake?
Tataki you mean? Yes, either that or aburi. Tataki tends to be done over a grill or quickly boiled, but aburi is done with one of those mini hand-held burners.

You reminded me - I need to try live oyster. I have yet to do so, and they`re in season now. I love cooked oyster, so keep wanting to try raw but forget.


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Tataki you mean? Yes, either that or aburi. Tataki tends to be done over a grill or quickly boiled, but aburi is done with one of those mini hand-held burners.

You reminded me - I need to try live oyster. I have yet to do so, and they`re in season now. I love cooked oyster, so keep wanting to try raw but forget.
Oops, yes, I meant 'tataki'. I need to stop typing romaji when I'm tired.

You should; raw oysters are lovely and creamy if they're super fresh and not at all slimy. I like them better than cooked oysters, with a little bit of shallot dressing or something.
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12-14-2009, 05:29 PM

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I am starting to understand your lack of respect for any culture other than your own. Welcome to the forums. Please do come to Japan.
what makes you think i "Respect" my own culture?

I am a citizen of the world and whatever i decide to do, is "my" culture.

I wave at peopple with my right hand, thats offensive in certain parts of the world, in certain cultures. But i am not a part of those cultures.
I dont go out of my way to offend people.
I just have any real desire to fit in, or be an accepted part of the crowd.

I dont expect someone from Japan (or anywhere else) to know the details of my culture. And im not going to get offended if they dont, or give them any brownie points for knowing.

Live life to your own, express yourself. not how you "think" poeple expect you to express yourself.

where i am from we call that "Keeping it real"
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