に and で prepositions

[enyafriend]

"Hidari de" could also mean with your left (hand, etc), using your left (hand, side, option, way, etc), etc. It all depends on the full context of the question in the scene.

[lucagalbu]

Originally Posted by MMM

What's the question in Japanese? (Not the subtitles). Please write the whole exchange.

I'm not so good at Japanese to understand what exactly they say
however here's the link to the video: YouTube - HunterXhunter episode 36
the scene where they play is at 4 minutes and 55 seconds

[MMM]

Originally Posted by lucagalbu

I'm not so good at Japanese to understand what exactly they say
however here's the link to the video: YouTube - HunterXhunter episode 36
the scene where they play is at 4 minutes and 55 seconds

They aren't saying "Hidari DE" 左で

They are saying "Hidari TE" 　左手　Left hand.

[lucagalbu]

Ok!!
Can I ask you just a last thing.... After that scene, the coin owner says something that has been translated as "Correct"... I can't understand what he says in Japanese...

[chryuop]

Originally Posted by lucagalbu

Ok!!
Can I ask you just a last thing.... After that scene, the coin owner says something that has been translated as "Correct"... I can't understand what he says in Japanese...

I understand you hee hee. I can't understand words not even with the script in my hands. I catch one word here and there and the rest nada. In fact so far I go just with reading and writing...maybe later on I will try to face this terrible challenge hee hee.
Hey what I have to say? I have been living in USA for 7 years and still constantly use subtitles when I watch tv. When we speak in our language we don't pay attention to every word even tho we understand, while when you hear a foreign language if you can't catch something your mind stays there missing the rest of the talk. Moreover if you think you hear a letter which is actually another letter, be sure you will keep hearing it wrong till someone tells you what it actually is.

For example the word you asked about? I listened to it at least 20 times and everytime I hear GOUMETO, which of course it is not on the dictionary (and looked also at many things that might sound like it) and in reality MMM will tell us something completely different hee hee.
(I even looked at the katakana for kooreto...thinking who knows, maybe correct?).

[Wasabista]

Both sentences are wrong, as you've figured out.

In principle "de" means "with/using" and "ni" is a general locative or dative particle.

Saji de shiru o tabeta. I drank my soup with a spoon.
Hon no naka ni wa mushi ga ita. A bug was inside the book.


But Japanese uses "de" when describing an action, in places where we would say "in," not "with":

Watashi wa Ikebukuro de hataraite imasu. I work in Ikebukuro.
O-sento de kaminoke o aratta. I washed my hair in the public bath.

[MMM]

Originally Posted by Wasabista

Both sentences are wrong, as you've figured out.

In principle "de" means "with/using" and "ni" is a general locative or dative particle.

Saji de shiru o tabeta. I drank my soup with a spoon.
Hon no naka ni wa mushi ga ita. A bug was inside the book.


But Japanese uses "de" when describing an action, in places where we would say "in," not "with":

Watashi wa Ikebukuro de hataraite imasu. I work in Ikebukuro.
O-sento de kaminoke o aratta. I washed my hair in the public bath.

These are different uses of DE...correct, but just different.

Saji de shiru o tabeta.

And soup is "drank" (nomu) not eaten (taberu). I hear supuun (spoon) much more often than saji (almost never).

[lucagalbu]

Originally Posted by chryuop

I understand you hee hee. I can't understand words not even with the script in my hands. I catch one word here and there and the rest nada. In fact so far I go just with reading and writing...maybe later on I will try to face this terrible challenge hee hee.

Yes, you're right!
In fact I'm trying to find some Japanese subtitles but i can't.. I just find English subs which are useless to me

[Wasabista]

Originally Posted by MMM

These are different uses of DE...correct, but just different.

Saji de shiru o tabeta.

And soup is "drank" (nomu) not eaten (taberu). I hear supuun (spoon) much more often than saji (almost never).

"Supuun" and "saji" are different things actually (maybe not in the dictionary but the way people use the terms). Saji is that big curved thing you drink ramen soup with.

[MMM]

Originally Posted by Wasabista

"Supuun" and "saji" are different things actually (maybe not in the dictionary but the way people use the terms). Saji is that big curved thing you drink ramen soup with.

I hear Japanese people call it a Spoon more often than a Saji...