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だ、です。。。 - 09-18-2008, 12:04 PM

I have a huge paper dictionary which was made for Japanese people since it is only Japanese-Italian and not vice versa (thus made for people who are more than familiar with Japanese).
I have been using it for years, but only now that I am getting more into Japanese language I noticed few things and they are related to だ、です、ます.
In the dictionary there is no trace of those 3 word as definition, but that is not all. There are thousands of examples in the dictionary, in some cases when there is not an exact translation of a word in my language, an example is actually all they give.
My language has like Japanese different way of expressing politeness, but even tho in the translations they use all different levels, I never see used ます. If copula must be used they use alot だ and many times they use である, no trace whatsoever of です or even であります.
My question is about real usage of those. I mean this is a dictionary build for Japanese people and they are never used in this dictionary. So are です、であります、ます actually used or is it a tool used to teach Japanese to foreigners and all polite forms are actually not that strict in everyday life in Japan?
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09-18-2008, 12:44 PM

I don't think they really translate into anything. Rather they are simply devices that you use when appropriate. When is appropriate? You learn as you progress with the language.
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