Can some check over my table I've done.

SceptileMaster · (#1 (**permalink**))

I've been learning about verbs in japanese as of recently and I have a book on verbs and grammer. The problem for me is that it's all in romaji. I want to get used to seeing things in japanese writing so I made the table on verb bases again on my computer but in hiragana.

Just to see if I've japanified it correctly could someone who knows japanese check over it quickly for me. Thanks in advance for any help, here's the link.

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/9...everbbases.gif

kirakira · (#2 (**permalink**))

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Originally Posted by SceptileMaster

I've been learning about verbs in japanese as of recently and I have a book on verbs and grammer. The problem for me is that it's all in romaji. I want to get used to seeing things in japanese writing so I made the table on verb bases again on my computer but in hiragana.

Just to see if I've japanified it correctly could someone who knows japanese check over it quickly for me. Thanks in advance for any help, here's the link.

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/9...everbbases.gif

Looks good. However, I would stick to Japanese Grammar for Japanese Learners (Type I, Type II verbs) rather than Japanese Grammar for Japanese (Godan, KamiIchidan, ShimoIchidan, Sagyohenkaku, Kagyohenkaku). It will be more confusing for you.

Also it should be Godan verbs, not Yodan. Yodan verbs does exist but they are strictly classic Japanese only.

isisbathory · (#3 (**permalink**))

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Originally Posted by SceptileMaster

I've been learning about verbs in japanese as of recently and I have a book on verbs and grammer. The problem for me is that it's all in romaji. I want to get used to seeing things in japanese writing so I made the table on verb bases again on my computer but in hiragana.

Just to see if I've japanified it correctly could someone who knows japanese check over it quickly for me. Thanks in advance for any help, here's the link.

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/9...everbbases.gif

woow, impressive, much better than me, well done

I would recomend you to look for some japanese grammer with kanji, kana, hiragana, romaji (too) and english translation, sometimes you might find some nice stuff on ebay...
I wish you good luck.

SceptileMaster · (#4 (**permalink**))

Well I'm glad it looks good I was just unsure about certain things like it's accuracy especially on base 5. For example: it is こう　and こ if I was using base 5 for かく right?

kirakira · (#5 (**permalink**))

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Well I'm glad it looks good I was just unsure about certain things like it's accuracy especially on base 5. For example: it is こう　and こ if I was using base 5 for かく right?

Just curious, what text book are you using that teaches you verb conjugation like this? Don't you find it confusing?

Anyway I had another look, and spotted a big mistake on Ichidan verb section and the Irregular verb section. In fact, I find the 5 base thing extremely confusing as there is no such thing in Japanese grammar so I don't even know how to correct you based on that table.

In Japanese, there are 6 types of conjugations for each verb (some of them overlap).
未然形 (Mizenkei)
連用形 (Renyoukei)
終止形 (Shuushikei)
連体形 (Rentaikei)
仮定形 (Kateikei)
命令形 (Meireikei)

In your table, Base 6 and 7 are actually both part of Renyoukei, which is Base 2 for Godan verbs. As you can see its confusion galore.

Seriously, for a Japanese learner, this is a terrible confusing way to introduce verb conjugations and I urge you to stick to mainstream Japanese grammar for non-Japanese speakers.

chryuop · (#6 (**permalink**))

Kirakira san, unfortunately this is the way western people learn how to conjugate Japanese verbs...I will try and look around in Internet to see how they are taught in Japan, now I am curious. But chances are that I will find it completely written in Japanese and before I translate it I will be a grandpa

SceptileMaster · (#7 (**permalink**))

Ack this is kind of confusing me now as I've looked at other tables also and they all have the 7 different bases.

I don't find it confusing I just am not sure on the prolonged o sound in japanese. I was checking to see if it is indeed written as おう for the prolonged o sound.

kirakira · (#8 (**permalink**))

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Ack this is kind of confusing me now as I've looked at other tables also and they all have the 7 different bases.

I don't find it confusing I just am not sure on the prolonged o sound in japanese. I was checking to see if it is indeed written as おう for the prolonged o sound.

SceptileMaster, I would recommend you to learn the meaning of each of the conjugations instead of just learning the conjugations themselves.

E.g. Volitional form of a verb is created using the following rules:
Type I (Godan) - 走（はし）RU - Replace U with O+う so it becomes 走（はし）ろう and it means, let's run.
Type 2 (Ichidan) - 食（た）べRU - Replace RU with YOU so it becomes 食（た）べよう and it means let's eat.
Type 3 (Sahen, Kahen) - 来（く）る = 来（こ）よう、する＝しよう・せよ

Remembering verb conjugations by themselves is useless imho.
After you've grasped the pattern, make sentences, such as 一緒（いっしょ）にテニスをやろうよ etc. やる is Godan, so how do I make it volitional so it's Let's play tennis together.

You will remember it much easier (this isn't Spanish with conjugation glore).

What I'm wondering is where is 食（た）べろ、起（お）きろ、来（こ）い and しろ in your chart. This is the 命令形 conjugation which is totally missing for Ichidan and Irregular verbs.

SceptileMaster · (#9 (**permalink**))

I'm sorry I'm having trouble understanding because I can read kana currently but not kanji so I'm having trouble grasping your examples. Could you use kana with spaces or something for the moment?

chryuop · (#10 (**permalink**))

The kana in brakets is the reading for the kanji, so you can understand it even if you don't know the kanji.