Japanese is a wierd and hard language!!!

[SHAD0W]

Originally Posted by kirakira

The classic うらにわにはにわ、にわにはにわにわとりがいる。has already proven why it is impossible to ditch Kanji. You just have to put up or shut up.

OMG! WTF is that meant to mean!?! total mind fcuk on that one - Love it though.

Would you mind beefing it up for me please, kirakira?

[Nyororin]

Originally Posted by SHAD0W

OMG! WTF is that meant to mean!?! total mind fcuk on that one - Love it though.

Would you mind beefing it up for me please, kirakira?

Literal translation would be "In the backyard there are two, and in the front yard two chickens."

Basically, there are two chickens in the backyard, and two more in the front.

裏庭 = うらにわ = backyard
には = hard to translate directly, but here as "in"
二羽 = にわ = two (birds or rabbits)
庭 = にわ = yard
鶏 = にわとり = chickens



裏庭には二羽、庭には二羽鶏がいる。　Not nearly so confusing when written using kanji...

[SHAD0W]

Originally Posted by Sinestra

are you still learning or have you given up?

From the way he's posting I'd guess he's given up, probably can't tell his あ from his お like the people in my class. Pure lazyness is what it comes down to.. The class people refuse to learn too.

I second what you say tho, i too have not had these "problems". The only time i get frustrated is when i try keep up with people who are fluent and I don't know the vocab to keep going.. I WILL GET THERE THOUGH!!!

Originally Posted by Nyororin

裏庭には二羽、庭には二羽鶏がいる。　Not nearly so confusing when written using kanji...

HAHAHA! I agree, that makes perfect sense! I'm going to show that to my class teacher.
Thanks very much!

[alanX]

Originally Posted by blushyy

I understand what you mean. I can read hiragana faster and easier than kanji, since sometimes I forget how to pronounce certain kanji characters, woops. But having kanji makes it a lot easier to understand the meaning of what is being written. Kanji is great. Once you know more and more kanji, you'd be much happier, haha.

Are you a native Japanese? I think what MMM's point was, you're not necissarily SUPPOSED to read the kanji. Like, the meaning just pops in your mind. Like a hyroglyphic, so to speak. Right MMM?

[MMM]

Originally Posted by alanX

Are you a native Japanese? I think what MMM's point was, you're not necissarily SUPPOSED to read the kanji. Like, the meaning just pops in your mind. Like a hyroglyphic, so to speak. Right MMM?

Yes, basically that is right. Kanji are a little like Greek or Latin roots in English. you can know the meaning without necessarily knowing the pronunciation.

[AnthraxAttack]

Haha, someone is having trouble with kanji studies? When it comes to kanji, you just have to take it or leave it. Kanji is not going anywhere.

What i found very helpful was to study the kanji's roots, what you will quickly find out is that each kanji is not just a random character with strokes here and there. There are a few base kanji that pretty much all kanji is made out of. Each kanji is a squared abstract picture of something. This 耳 is the drawing of an ear. This 門 is the drawing of an gate. so what is this 聞?

Aha! A ear at a gate, eavesdropping! And what do you do wihle eavsdropping? you hear. If you don't know the pornounciation of the kanji, you will probably remember what to hear in japanese is. You don't need to remember the pornounciation of each and every kanji, you will get far by just reading the picture or of your memory, and not how each kanji is pronunced.

[Taranee987]

I don't think Japanese is a difficult language and not weird at all or maybe weird for those who hear it for the first time?
I have have been self studying japanese for two years now and i still practice Katakana and Hiragana i know the meanings of some Kanji but these things takes time as for me i need to balance my japanese studying and my regular school work so i take one thing at a time and i try not to stress either

Kanji is hard? yes for someone but it is also hard for me sometimes but i just need more practice

[komitsuki]

Every languages around the world are equally difficult in many ways.

[Yuusuke]

Well it's only hard because it's not ur native language.

I study japanese, i think it's hard but you'll figure it out.

fundamentals help X_X

and if u get those down it gets easier

just practice practice practice

which i've been lacking to do lately

[jesselt]

Am I the only one having a hard time believing that the OP is in college...?