JapanForum.com  


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
(#21 (permalink))
Old
Nyororin's Avatar
Nyororin (Offline)
Mod Extraordinaire
 
Posts: 4,147
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: あま市
Send a message via MSN to Nyororin Send a message via Yahoo to Nyororin
08-20-2009, 12:58 PM

Had to jump in and correct some stuff.

Quote:
B: いいえ、じょうずでわありません。までまでです。
That should be まだまだ not までまで.

Quote:
Also don't forget that particle inbetween 日本語 and じょうず.
Almost everyone leaves out the particle there. I don`t really think I`ve ever heard anyone include the particle...

Quote:
I learned that you can say いいえ、へたですtoo.I think it's the same,though,because as far as I know へた is anothe way of saying じょうずでわありません,but it's shorter
じょうずではありません is sort of like saying "No, it`s not so good." - へたです is like saying "It sucks". There is a pretty big difference, and a pretty big leap in politeness. If I complimented someone and they answered with へたです I`d feel vaguely insulted. It`s really not a good thing to say in reply to a compliment.

いいえ、そんなことないです is a great all purpose response.


If anyone is trying to find me… Tamyuun on Instagram is probably the easiest.
Reply With Quote
(#22 (permalink))
Old
yuriyuri's Avatar
yuriyuri (Offline)
JF Old Timer
 
Posts: 232
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: UK
08-20-2009, 01:11 PM

Can you also say in regards to a compliment something like:
いえいえそんな事がないんです
or
いえいえそんな事がありません
?
Reply With Quote
(#23 (permalink))
Old
Nyororin's Avatar
Nyororin (Offline)
Mod Extraordinaire
 
Posts: 4,147
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: あま市
Send a message via MSN to Nyororin Send a message via Yahoo to Nyororin
08-20-2009, 01:22 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by yuriyuri View Post
Can you also say in regards to a compliment something like:
いえいえそんな事がないんです
or
いえいえそんな事がありません
?
The いえいえ is totally fine, but I wouldn`t insert が. The meaning changes. If you insist on putting a particle I guess you could put は, but really it`s far more natural and correct to leave the particle out. The same with using ありません.


If anyone is trying to find me… Tamyuun on Instagram is probably the easiest.
Reply With Quote
(#24 (permalink))
Old
yuriyuri's Avatar
yuriyuri (Offline)
JF Old Timer
 
Posts: 232
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: UK
08-20-2009, 01:47 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nyororin View Post
The いえいえ is totally fine, but I wouldn`t insert が. The meaning changes. If you insist on putting a particle I guess you could put は, but really it`s far more natural and correct to leave the particle out. The same with using ありません.
Ah, so do you mean it would be ok to say:
いえいえそんな事ないんです
or
いえいえそんな事ありません

or even leaving it at: いえいえそんな事...

Sorry if i mis-understood your post
Reply With Quote
(#25 (permalink))
Old
yuujirou's Avatar
yuujirou (Offline)
Busier Than Shinjuku Station
 
Posts: 1,645
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Houston, Texas
Send a message via AIM to yuujirou
08-20-2009, 01:52 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nyororin View Post
Had to jump in and correct some stuff.



That should be まだまだ not までまで.



Almost everyone leaves out the particle there. I don`t really think I`ve ever heard anyone include the particle...



じょうずではありません is sort of like saying "No, it`s not so good." - へたです is like saying "It sucks". There is a pretty big difference, and a pretty big leap in politeness. If I complimented someone and they answered with へたです I`d feel vaguely insulted. It`s really not a good thing to say in reply to a compliment.

いいえ、そんなことないです is a great all purpose response.
alas our grammatical saviour saves the convo <3

and i'm so glad that i was correct in leaving out the particle ^_^

yokatta de~suuuuu >.<''



In the shadows beneath the trees he waits.
In the darkness under the moon he plots
In the silence of the night he kills.
Reply With Quote
(#26 (permalink))
Old
Nyororin's Avatar
Nyororin (Offline)
Mod Extraordinaire
 
Posts: 4,147
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: あま市
Send a message via MSN to Nyororin Send a message via Yahoo to Nyororin
08-20-2009, 03:55 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by yuriyuri View Post
Ah, so do you mean it would be ok to say:
いえいえそんな事ないんです
or
いえいえそんな事ありません
Yes, both of those would be fine.

Quote:
or even leaving it at: いえいえそんな事...
I`d finish the sentence.


If anyone is trying to find me… Tamyuun on Instagram is probably the easiest.
Reply With Quote
(#27 (permalink))
Old
SceptileMaster's Avatar
SceptileMaster (Offline)
JF Old Timer
 
Posts: 240
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: UK
08-21-2009, 11:07 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nyororin View Post

Almost everyone leaves out the particle there. I don`t really think I`ve ever heard anyone include the particle...
Thank you for clearing this up. Is this common with most other adjective type sentences as well?
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




Copyright 2003-2006 Virtual Japan.
SEO by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC6