"until the end of the universe" in Japanese

[StasSHV]

Hey, how you doin' over here? I'm stas, and i'm new here. I registered mainly because i need your help, concerning some japanese to english translation. Could you please give of a few translations to the next sentence: untill the end of the universe. Thank you very much.

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[Nagoyankee]

Originally Posted by StasSHV

Hey, how you doin' over here? I'm stas, and i'm new here. I registered mainly because i need your help, concerning some japanese to english translation. Could you please give of a few translations to the next sentence: untill the end of the universe. Thank you very much.

宇宙の果てまで
emphasis on space/distance

宇宙の終わりまで
emphasis on time

In Japan, you will hear/see the first one much more often if that means anything.

[StasSHV]

Thanks for the quick reply, helped me out alot!

[KyleGoetz]

Originally Posted by Nagoyankee

宇宙の果てまで
emphasis on space/distance

宇宙の終わりまで
emphasis on time

In Japan, you will hear/see the first one much more often if that means anything.

This has actually gotten me thinking about the subtlety of "until" in the original English. I'd never thought about it before, but "until" pretty much always signifies a temporal boundary rather than a spatial one. On the other hand, "to the end of the universe" makes me think of a spatial boundary.

Any other native English speakers feel the same way?

[snbzk]

Originally Posted by KyleGoetz

This has actually gotten me thinking about the subtlety of "until" in the original English. I'd never thought about it before, but "until" pretty much always signifies a temporal boundary rather than a spatial one. On the other hand, "to the end of the universe" makes me think of a spatial boundary.

Any other native English speakers feel the same way?

"Until" can be used to describe spatial boundaries in situations like giving directions ("go until you get to the gas station, then turn left") or describing linear paths ("this road goes on until it reaches the coast"), but I would say that even in those situations it's technically referring to the time it takes to reach a destination. In the latter case, the road itself doesn't take time to get anywhere, but rather it's described from the point of view of the mind's eye travelling along it.

"Until the end of the universe" is probably a bad example to consider because "the end of the universe" can refer to both a place and an event.

[KyleGoetz]

Originally Posted by snbzk

"Until" can be used to describe spatial boundaries in situations like giving directions ("go until you get to the gas station, then turn left") or describing linear paths ("this road goes on until it reaches the coast"), but I would say that even in those situations it's technically referring to the time it takes to reach a destination.

That's precisely the "caveat" I was thinking about. It's not really a caveat, though, because as you said, the subtext of the phrase is that you are going until a point in time (i.e., the point in time at which X is accomplished).