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01-07-2010, 02:16 AM
I have found it in one of those small "travel grammar" books with phrases.
Actually it was related to the numbers+counters, not sure if it works with other words as well. I am sure there are many other exceptions. That's what my book says: BEFORE H The kana ち and く become a P and transform the following H into a P so to obtain a PP sound. じゅう changes the H into a P and doubles it, at the same time the sound become short じゅ. さん doesn't have any change in itself, but changes the following H into a B. BEFORE S The kana ち becomes a S to obtain a SS sound. じゅう it double the following S so that the sound becomes SS, at the same time the syllable becomes short じゅ. BEFORE K The kana ち and く become K. じゅう double the K and its sound becomes short じゅ. As I said it is only mentioned when it speaks about numbers+counters, to know if it is a general rule you need to ask to someone who know Japanese better than me (not hard to find one  ).暗闇の中 歩くしかねぇ everything’s gonna be okay 恐れることねぇ 辛い時こそ胸を張れ 
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01-07-2010, 02:28 AM
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English does something very similar, too, and so does Spanish. Try to think of as many English words with "nb" or "np" in them. You will have a tough time. I really can't think of a single one, although there may be a handful. It comes down to the place and manner of articulation of the n, m, h, b, and p sounds. For example, "ampersand" is and+per+se+and. The "d" goes away: anperseand. The "n" sounds like an "m" before "p" and "b": amperseand.
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01-07-2010, 05:59 AM
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I was categorically taught いっぷん にふん さんぶん at my university by multiple native Japanese speakers and have used さんぶん for eight years now. If I had my copy of Yookoso, I'd pull it out and refer to it to make sure. This is news to me that it is pronounced さんぷん. Like, a major freakout is going on at my apartment right now over this. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
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01-07-2010, 06:09 AM
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 Just listen to the first few seconds of each of these:
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01-07-2010, 05:07 PM
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Cuss.
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01-07-2010, 06:03 PM
WOW now that you mention it I realize that I didn't really pay attention to it. The Japanese teacher helping me, when he taught me classifiers never put 分 in the H sound examples.
Pushed by Mesaeguさん I went back and check the section where he taught me the dates and time....that's the minutes part. *minutes(classifier:fun/pun) ip-pun(一分）, ni-fun（二分）, san-pun（三分）, yon-pun（四分）, go-fun（五分）, rop-pun（六分） nana-fun（七分）, hap-pun（八分）, kyuu-fun（九分）, jup-pun（十分）, juuip-pun（十一分）, juuni-fun（十二分）,,,, I guess I had completely overlooked at it...thinking I already knew how to form the "3 minutes" form. Thank you for pointing it out. EDIT. I guess sometimes going back and re-read what we already give for granted wouldn't be a mistake. Lesson learnt  暗闇の中 歩くしかねぇ everything’s gonna be okay 恐れることねぇ 辛い時こそ胸を張れ
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