Good Japanese counter resource?

[SceptileMaster]

Thanks I think I understand that table now. I've just unromanized it for my reference (damn romaji).

[yuriyuri]

Originally Posted by MMM

Except I have never heard anyone say いっきろ. I have only heard いちきろ.

Except I have heard people say いっきろ.

After searching Google it does seem that いちきろ is the more common way.
I say "more common way" because I have definitely heard いっきろ being used, even by Japanese friends.
Maybe いっきろ is just used in certain places?
I don't know, but either way いっきろ exists.

Edit:
A mail from my friend said:
さっき調べたら
いっきろは やっぱ方言で
いちきろってのが
全国共通なんだって

いっきろって
聞いたことない人もいるみたいだよー

Which explains why I have heard it, considering the friends I have in Japan all speak some kind of dialect.

[MMM]

Originally Posted by yuriyuri

Except I have heard people say いっきろ.

After searching Google it does seem that いちきろ is the more common way.
I say "more common way" because I have definitely heard いっきろ being used, even by Japanese friends.
Maybe いっきろ is just used in certain places?
I don't know, but either way いっきろ exists.

Edit:
A mail from my friend said:
さっき調べたら
いっきろは やっぱ方言で
いちきろってのが
全国共通なんだって

いっきろって
聞いたことない人もいるみたいだよー

Which explains why I have heard it, considering the friends I have in Japan all speak some kind of dialect.

This is what makes language learning fun.

[yuriyuri]

And that fun is what keeps me learning Japanese

[KyleGoetz]

Originally Posted by SceptileMaster

Yes it tells me the rules but it doesn't tell which counters use each rule which is what I really need. Finding out the counters themselves isn't really the problem. For example, how would I know whether 一キロ would be read いっきろ or いちきろ without a resource?

Also thanks for the site masaegu.

Any counter that begins with an unvoiced stop would follow the pattern
いっ for 1
じゅっ for 10
ろっ for 6
はっ for 8

If the counter starts with an "h" follow the rule for 分

Else don't do anything special, e.g. 　枚　いちまい、にまい、さんまい、など

一軒＝いっけん
一点＝いってん
一丁＝いっちょう

These rules aren't rocket surgery. There are basically 2-3 patterns, and all counters follow these patterns. Hell, counters are more regular than English verbs. There are exceptions, but you learn them as you go, not by memorizing them all now.

Hell, I probably only know 10–20 counters, and very few of them get rotation in my daily speech. 軒点匹分角画頭本枚杯丁台次時日月年回羽冊組番曲体 are basically the only ones I know. I reverb to the good ol' Yamato counting otherwise: ひ、ふ、み、など.

[SceptileMaster]

Originally Posted by yuriyuri

Except I have heard people say いっきろ.

After searching Google it does seem that いちきろ is the more common way.
I say "more common way" because I have definitely heard いっきろ being used, even by Japanese friends.
Maybe いっきろ is just used in certain places?
I don't know, but either way いっきろ exists.

Edit:
A mail from my friend said:
さっき調べたら
いっきろは やっぱ方言で
いちきろってのが
全国共通なんだって

いっきろって
聞いたことない人もいるみたいだよー

Which explains why I have heard it, considering the friends I have in Japan all speak some kind of dialect.

Doesn't this mean that the counter doesn't follow the rules?

[KyleGoetz]

Originally Posted by SceptileMaster

Doesn't this mean that the counter doesn't follow the rules?

Let's say the rules apply to non-loan words.

[BenBullock]

Originally Posted by SceptileMaster

I am in search of a good Japanese counter table or spreadsheet (or something along those lines) that tells me the exceptions of different counters. I can't seem to find a good one. Does anyone know of a good one? Thanks for your time.

http://www.trussel.com/jcount.htm has some information on whether to use ichi or hito.

The Counting Dictionary (jp) has a lot of information on exceptions.

[SceptileMaster]

Thanks for the links.

What are the rules for loan-words then?

[KyleGoetz]

Originally Posted by SceptileMaster

Thanks for the links.

What are the rules for loan-words then?

That the rules don't apply to them.