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Because X, Y (X and Y are both sentences)

Example:
X = I ate pizzaピザを食べた
Y = I like pizzaピザが好きだ
Because X, Y: Because I like pizza, I ate pizza.
ピザが好きなので、(ピザを)食べた。

X = I ate pizzaピザを食べた
Y = I was in Italyイタリアにいた
Because X, Y: Because I was in Italy, I ate pizza.

You're switching around X and Y.


X = I ate pizzaピザを食べた
Y = I was in Italyイタリアにいた
Because X, Y: Because I ate pizza, I was in Italy???? :S TeleportPizza!!

Besides that, yeah.


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You're switching around X and Y.


X = I ate pizzaピザを食べた
Y = I was in Italyイタリアにいた
Because X, Y: Because I ate pizza, I was in Italy???? :S TeleportPizza!!

Besides that, yeah.
Yeah, you're right. I mislabeled X and Y. :/
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02-18-2010, 01:45 PM

thanks for the informative reply again kyle, and jesselt for the link to tae kim's site

in that website, tae kim mentioned that なので/ので implicitly states that the first part is the "reason" whereas だから/から explicitly states that the first part is the "reason"

also i would like to ask if in normal conversation (native japanese) is the implicitness of ので (as mentioned by tae kim) captured , or is ので merely used whenever the conversation is formal?


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Edit: This may have been wrong.

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The implicitness is because ので is not a word for "because." I think it is the nominalizing particle の added to the て-form of です (で). But it means "because" de facto.
Instead use から
i take it.


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Instead use から
i take it.
This link explains it better than I, and explains some other differences between the two: What is the difference between kara and node?
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This link explains it better than I, and explains some other differences between the two: What is the difference between kara and node?
I qkno the difference....


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I qkno the difference....
Forgive me for underestimating your abilities. It was callous.
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Forgive me for underestimating your abilities. It was callous.
it's fine, i added some more vocab to my list from that link.

I just hate that about.com uses romaji >.>


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thanks for the link kyle that explains a lot !


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