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03-16-2010, 01:38 AM
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03-16-2010, 02:24 AM
I did make this thread a sticky for now.
I am suspicious of the negativity towards this thread. We have "what is the worst food" and other negative threads, but this one is actually useful. There are good sites, and bad sites. Practically, it is not possible to learn Japanese pronunciation using romaji. Kana only takes a few weeks to learn...for some faster for others slower, but hiragana is only 60 something characters. The longer you go using romaji, the longer it will take you to break the bad habits you develop, and will actually slow your learning down. A link in your signature implies you are associated with the site. At least that is what I assume.
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03-16-2010, 03:30 AM
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Of course, this site could inadvertently become a way of "shaming" sites into getting better. That would actually be a better outcome than just steering people away from sites made by people who want to help teach but just aren't quite skilled enough by themselves.
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03-16-2010, 03:49 AM
I am trying to make this website better. If I would have known I would have stoped my sister from posting links. There is lots of errors we didn't spell check all the areas of the website. Some information is missing and links don't work. We were in the middle of "under construction" but some people who use the website wanted it up, so we kept it up.
We really want to correct the problems and listen to your feedback about the romaji. As well as kana stroke order, we were in the middle of working on that, it is very important to know. Even pretty much all the kanji are missing, we never uploaded them. We never created most of the images yet either.
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03-16-2010, 04:30 AM
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The point is that nobody is ever going to find or visit those sites anyway. Sorting through all those millions and millions of "low information content" sites and telling people to avoid them is not a productive use of your time. It's better to make a list of sites which ARE worth visiting, and it will be enough work just keeping that up to date.
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03-16-2010, 06:38 AM
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I visit this site every day. 2. Link dump: There is no content. 3. This one has a lot in kana. Nice. But is mostly a link dump. 4. Another link dump.
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03-16-2010, 07:36 AM
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Just because the link itself is on a good page doesn`t mean that the content is good.
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03-16-2010, 07:41 AM
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I know Ben and Jim know each other and have for a long time. The two of them are regulars at the same place on USENET. I highly doubt Ben was saying Jim isn't up to snuff. I admit that I read his post the same way the first time, too, and if I didn't know Ben and Jim knew each other, I probably would have stayed at the conclusion you made, MMM.
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03-16-2010, 08:05 AM
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 I said " randomly click a few links from these pages of links, and I'm sure you'll find things which are very similar to 123japanese".For example, at Jim Breen's page, I find the following dodgy sites (I'm deliberately de-linking them): www dot omoshiroieigo dot com That is about the same kind of thing as 123japanese. Here's another one: www dot ara-maa dot com It's almost content free. And, here's another one: thejapaneseproject dot com As it happens I was just writing an email to Jim Breen about some of the broken links there. E.g. diagrammar dot photonjungle dot com is now a domain squatter www dot myjapaneselessons dot com is a broken site, the Java is just spewing errors.
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