Name in kanji

[Koir]

Originally Posted by yukikosan

I'm begining to learn... I still have a LOT to learn..

That's the first sensible thing you've said in this entire thread. Start with actually reading the responses of people in this forum who are trying to help you. And stop arguing for the sake of arguing, it's making you look foolish and ignorant.

[DanielSheen]

Originally Posted by yukikosan

because, like I said, I'm not English and I wasn't sure if that was the way to say it.



since when?? Since forever !! I mean there is no world rule against that!!
We are all free humain being and if I want to give a Lebanese name to my daughter I have the right to do so, I don't have to ask a permission, the same way as if I pick a religion I'm free to follow it by the book or with my values!!
It's not because you grow in a culture that you have to stick to it in every way for your entire life!
I come from a French Canadian catholic culture.
As a teenager, I decided to change religion, because I didn't beleive the Christian one... Is that a crime?? A silly thing! No, it's called freedom !

And I am not gonna change legally for a kanji. I changed legally for Yuki, the kanji is only for me, to "use" the Japanese name correctly, because even if I am not Japanese , Yuki IS a Japanese name and so, should nit be in katakana, is it not a foreign laguage.

And yes, I am learning Japanese language actualy and I read about the culture.
I didn't change my name to Yuki by respect... I changed it for a personnal reason and i chose Yuki because I love this name!
I want to gave a kanj. By respect, not the same thing here!
But maybe I don't have the same vision of respect than Japaneses do.

I don't even know how to explain how stupid your ideas are, but i think that everyone who reads what you say can understand.

First. want to change your name, go ahead, change your name to a Japanese name go ahead. but then feel like you NEED to write the name in that language as respect, is just stupid.

You say your not a teenager, but you sure do act and talk like one.

You say you want to respect japanese culture, wtf makes you think its respectful to just change your name to respect a culture, not normal behavior.

And you seem to know nothing about Japanese culture, so why the hell would you even say something like, if i write my name, id like to write it in that language. Thats soo stupid I can't even explain...I just can't.

[MMM]

Originally Posted by yukikosan

you're right but if I may, other cultures has NOTHING to say about my choices since we are NOT from the same culture.
I can't judge other cultures as well.

The reality is native Japanese would see you adopting a Japanese name as strange. That's life.

The reality is native Japanese will not accept you writing your name in kanji unless you are a citizen of Japan. That's a fact.

Originally Posted by yukikosan

I agree but only if you actually LIVE in this country, this culture.
I don't live in japan. I live in Canada.
Like if you don't follow the Muslim laws like you should here, nobody will really care and nobody is gonna tell you what to do..
Because we are not a Muslim country..

I wonder if the Muslim worshipers who go to the same mosque as you would agree with that. I think no. Just because you are in a different country doesn't mean you can do things however you want.

I can't just decide tomorrow "I am French", as I am not French, I have no French roots and have never been to France.

Originally Posted by yukikosan

I'm begining to learn... I still have a LOT to learn..



but katakana is for foreign language. Yuki is Japanese.

Yoko Ono: Japanese name. Written in katakana.

Just having a name that has roots in Japanese doesn't mean you get a free pass for a kanji name. It doesn't work like that.

[KyleGoetz]

Originally Posted by MMM

Yoko Ono: Japanese name. Written in katakana.

That one actually took me by surprise, and I had to look it up! I guess she took a katakana name when she abandoned Japanese citizenship?

[MMM]

Originally Posted by KyleGoetz

That one actually took me by surprise, and I had to look it up! I guess she took a katakana name when she abandoned Japanese citizenship?

I don't know if the katakana name was chosen for her or if she chose it.

[Columbine]

Originally Posted by yukikosan

but katakana is for foreign language. Yuki is Japanese.

You have a major misunderstanding here. It doesn't matter what Japanese name you give yourself, YOU aren't Japanese and unless you change nationalities, you never will be.

If you are NOT japanese you write your name in Katakana. End of story.

Also it's presumptuous. Too many people try and change their names into Kanji and pick ones with over-the-top meanings. The best kanji translation of my name into japanese by sound and meaning is 聖良. I would never use it because it would be blatantly obvious it's an adopted name and only a smeg-head would flatter themselves with something that means "Good Saint". It's different if it comes from your parents. セィラ in Katakana is MUCH safer- it's neutral. It looks and sounds wholly japanese but it's not going to cause any eyebrows to rocket off into the stratosphere.　

[KyleGoetz]

Originally Posted by Columbine

If you are NOT japanese you write your name in Katakana. End of story.

The only exception is if you come from another country that uses kanji natively (China, e.g.).

Although I wonder what a Chinese person would do if his name has a character in it that does not appear in Japanese or is simplified differently in Japanese.

[MMM]

Originally Posted by KyleGoetz

The only exception is if you come from another country that uses kanji natively (China, e.g.).

Although I wonder what a Chinese person would do if his name has a character in it that does not appear in Japanese or is simplified differently in Japanese.

Then in Japan it is written in katakana.

チョウ・ユンファ - Wikipedia

[sarasi]

Originally Posted by MMM

Since Yoko Ono was born in the US her name was (and is) written in katakana. She is Japanese with Japanese blood and Japanese parents who has a katakana name. Japanese names in kanji are reserved for Japanese citizens.

Actually Yoko was born in Tokyo and moved to the US not long after. She does have kanji (小野洋子) but usually writes her name in katakana because she prefers to, I believe. I know a Japanese man who is well-known in his field, but in print his name is always in katakana, simply because he prefers it that way. He also has a kanji name but rarely uses it.

I don't really see anything wrong with picking kanji for fun for your name, as long as the person realises it will never be something they can use legally (unless they move to Japan and take on citizenship, or register themselves a legal alias here) but if Yuki wants an authentic-looking name, then 友気 will not work. She asked why not earlier on- the answer is because the kanji 気 is just not normally used in names, so it looks odd- as above, like naming yourself "table".　There are plenty of other options for ki which are used in women's names, like 希 (hope) or 貴 (valued).

As for the screen name yukikosan, although it is a screen name, a screen name is still something used to refer to oneself, and you just do not use "san" to refer to yourself, ever. If Yuki wants to show respect to the Japanese culture, she could start by accepting that yukikosan is an inappropriate screen name.

[MMM]

Originally Posted by sarasi

Actually Yoko was born in Tokyo and moved to the US not long after. She does have kanji (小野洋子) but usually writes her name in katakana because she prefers to, I believe. I know a Japanese man who is well-known in his field, but in print his name is always in katakana, simply because he prefers it that way. He also has a kanji name but rarely uses it.

I don't really see anything wrong with picking kanji for fun for your name, as long as the person realises it will never be something they can use legally (unless they move to Japan and take on citizenship, or register themselves a legal alias here) but if Yuki wants an authentic-looking name, then 友気 will not work. She asked why not earlier on- the answer is because the kanji 気 is just not normally used in names, so it looks odd- as above, like naming yourself "table".　There are plenty of other options for ki which are used in women's names, like 希 (hope) or 貴 (valued).

As for the screen name yukikosan, although it is a screen name, a screen name is still something used to refer to oneself, and you just do not use "san" to refer to yourself, ever. If Yuki wants to show respect to the Japanese culture, she could start by accepting that yukikosan is an inappropriate screen name.

You are right, Yoko Ono was born in Tokyo...my mistake there.

It seems her father was in the US when she was born, and moved there soon after.

If someone wants to fool around with nicknames, that is fine (though real nicknames are chosen for you, not chosen by you).