some help for a phrase

[namme]

Hey, guys ). I need some help. Could anyone please tell me how 負け犬からの脱却十ヶ条 translates?
Thanks a lot

[Sashimister]

Originally Posted by namme

Hey, guys ). I need some help. Could anyone please tell me how 負け犬からの脱却十ヶ条 translates?
Thanks a lot

May we see your own attempt first?

[namme]

I don't have a guess. I don't know japanese, otherwise I wouldn't ask. I tried several translation engines, but it doesn't work, I guess one should be native or very familiar with the language to understand it.

[Sashimister]

Originally Posted by namme

I don't have a guess. I don't know japanese, otherwise I wouldn't ask. I tried several translation engines, but it doesn't work, I guess one should be native or very familiar with the language to understand it.

Forget online translation. People study 10-20 years (and more) to do this.

"The ten laws in overcoming loserdom"

[namme]

Thanks, man.

[sakaeyellow]

Originally Posted by namme

Hey, guys ). I need some help. Could anyone please tell me how 負け犬からの脱却十ヶ条 translates?
Thanks a lot

"10 Ways not to be a Loser" will sound more natural, but not word by word translation.

[Sashimister]

Originally Posted by sakaeyellow

"10 Ways not to be a Loser" will sound more natural, but not word by word translation.

Not true at all. Please don't post for the sake of posting.

負け犬からの脱却 means that the person is ALREADY a loser. Otherwise, how do you 脱却する from it?

[sakaeyellow]

Originally Posted by Sashimister

Not true at all. Please don't post for the sake of posting.

負け犬からの脱却 means that the person is ALREADY a loser. Otherwise, how do you 脱却する from it?

Maybe what you say is right, but your attitude is not right.

"10 ways to ..." / "10 ways not to...." is more natural in English. And as for loserdom, I am not sure if it is something we can overcome. I googled "overcome loserdom" and get only 2 results. BTW "overcoming loserdom" has 1 result. Isn't it a red flag?

And in English, when we say "don't be a loser", it is okay that the listener is or is not a loser.

I don't post for the sake of posting.

[RickOShay]

Originally Posted by sakaeyellow

Maybe what you say is right, but your attitude is not right.

"10 ways to ..." / "10 ways not to...." is more natural in English. And as for loserdom, I am not sure if it is something we can overcome. I googled "overcome loserdom" and get only 2 results. BTW "overcoming loserdom" has 1 result. Isn't it a red flag?

And in English, when we say "don't be a loser", it is okay that the listener is or is not a loser.

I don't post for the sake of posting.

I am a native speaker of English and I have to agree with Sashimister's translation. The fact that からの脱却 is used implies that somebody is already a loser. But the way you said it could be taken as how people should avoid becoming a loser in the first place.

[sakaeyellow]

Originally Posted by RickOShay

I am a native speaker of English and I have to agree with Sashimister's translation. The fact that からの脱却 is used implies that somebody is already a loser. But the way you said it could be taken as how people should avoid becoming a loser in the first place.

What do you think about "overcoming loserdom"? And what is "loserdom"?

I agree with Sashimister that we are talking about people who are already losers. But both 負け犬 and 脱却 are words that can be found in dictionary, I suggest using English words that also can be found in English dictionary.

And here are the 10 laws:
一、自分だけは自分の潜在能力を信じてあげろ。
一、自分の予測する、自分の限界という壁を越える経験 をしろ。
一、自分を正当化して「出来ない」というな。　（経済 的、時間的、人的等の要因を「出来ない」理由にするな ）
一、金よりも大切な目的を持て。　（金は手段であって 、目的ではないはずだ）
一、常識を身につけ、常識を疑え。　（常識は思考能力 のない人の道具である場合が多い）
一、信念を持て、そして信念に照らし合わせて行動しろ 。　（信念がないと目先の利益に捕らわれてしまう）
一、ずるい技法を学べ、しかし利用するな。　（技法を 知っていればだまされずにすむことが多い）
一、行動に迷ったときは、自分にとって苦しいと予測す るほうを選択しろ。
一、カッコ良く生きろ。　（但し、土下座することやボ ロを着ることもカッコ良い場合がある）
一、親を大切にしろ　（親とは今の自分が存在する要因 となった人のことをいう)

Frankly speaking, it seems to be more for normal people to become successful than for losers to become normal people.