Tsugaru Dialect or French? - Page 2

MMM · (#11 (**permalink**))

What do you know? Completely had me fooled.

cranks · (#12 (**permalink**))

It had many Japanese fooled. I've heard of 津軽弁 being completely unrecognizable, but I too was underestimating it.

StonerPenguin · (#13 (**permalink**))

Haha, so I guess Tsugaru-ben is similar to the US's Louisiana Cajun accent? Sorry, the most recent episode of South Park (YouTube - South Park Season 14 Episode 11 Coon 2 THE SHRIMP GUY) parodied the Cajun accent so it popped into my head when I read this

Check this out; YouTube - Spicy Cajun Accents (from AMERICAN TONGUES) I understood like 15 random words of what they said. D:

Thanks for sharing masaegu! And thanks to cranks too for sharing some native insight

Very interesting

Tsugaru dialect - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
From (English) Wikipedia;
The words are sometimes very different from those of standard Japanese.
English Standard Japanese Tsugaru dialect
I 　　　　　　　　watashi 　　　　　　　　wa
you 　　　　　　 anata 　　　　　　　　　na
cute 　　　　　　kawaii 　　　　　　　　megoi
friend 　　　　　tomodachi 　　　　keyagu
road 　　　　　　douro 　　　　　　　kendo
countryside　inaka 　　　　　　　　jago
but 　　　　　　　keredo 　　　　　　　batte
same 　　　　　onaji 　　　　　　　　　futozu
very 　　　　　　totemo 　　　　　　　tage/gappa
That's a serious difference! :O

cranks · (#14 (**permalink**))

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Originally Posted by StonerPenguin

Haha, so I guess Tsugaru-ben is similar to the US's Louisiana Cajun accent? Sorry, the most recent episode of South Park (YouTube - South Park Season 14 Episode 11 Coon 2 THE SHRIMP GUY) parodied the Cajun accent so it popped into my head when I read this

Check this out; YouTube - Spicy Cajun Accents (from AMERICAN TONGUES) I understood like 15 random words of what they said. D:

Thanks for sharing Massegu! And thanks to cranks too for sharing some native insight

Very interesting

Oh, this is awesome, I'll send it to my friend from Louisiana and see if he can understand it.

StonerPenguin · (#15 (**permalink**))

Hehe, Although I think Tsugaru is more different from Standard Japanese than Cajun is from Standard English i.e. I can sorta understand the Cajun people in that video if I listen carefully a few times, though I've been hearing Southern accents my whole life as a result of living in Alabama for nearly 20 years

Though I don't have a southern accent :I but I do say "fixing to" for "about to" (like in "I'm about to leave") which I didn't even know was a southern-only expression til I talked to my northern cousins O:

Man, divergent dialects are scary from a student's point of view but if even native speaker's can't understand it... I wonder if there's textbooks on how to understand Aomori people...

BTW, just out of curiosity; Are accents bad with older Japanese people?
Here in the southern US, often older people (heck, not even that 'old' -- 40-year-old+ people) are nearly impossible to understand. Just tonight, I went to a meeting and there was this guy in his 50's was trying to talk to me and I just got tired of asking him "What?" so I just nodded my head and pretended to understand him :/ This is a sadly common phenomenon, so does this happen with older people in Japan too?

cranks · (#16 (**permalink**))

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Originally Posted by StonerPenguin

Hehe, Although I think Tsugaru is more different from Standard Japanese than Cajun is from Standard English

That was my impression too. I maybe able to somewhat understand Cajun if I live there for a while, but 津軽弁 sounds even worse.

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Originally Posted by StonerPenguin

BTW, just out of curiosity; Are accents bad with older Japanese people?
Here in the southern US, often older people (heck, not even that 'old' -- 40-year-old+ people) are nearly impossible to understand. Just tonight, I went to a meeting and there was this guy in his 50's was trying to talk to me and I just got tired of asking him "What?" so I just nodded my head and pretended to understand him :/ This is a sadly common phenomenon, so does this happen with older people in Japan too?

Definitely. Some younger people from 東北 for example say they don't even understand their own grand parents sometimes.