the problem with learning japanese

[myk]

Originally Posted by Trifectionx

perhaps, but i have always seen forums as a chance to let ur guard down. abbreviations, i see, as an expression of comfort and closeness.

you're would be spelled ur, but thts not important

Yeah, ur right. lol.
I guess I've never thought of "relaxed" spelling before. That's an interesting, and admittedly valid, take on it.

[SHAD0W]

I think this "relaxed spelling" shows a lack of intellegence. It was created to save space when writing text messages because of a 100 or so character limit. This limit does not exist on the internet, you don't have to press the "8" key 7 times to get the character you want, so there's no need to abbreviate in such a way.

[myk]

Originally Posted by SHAD0W

I think this "relaxed spelling" shows a lack of intellegence. It was created to save space when writing text messages because of a 100 or so character limit. This limit does not exist on the internet, you don't have to press the "8" key 7 times to get the character you want, so there's no need to abbreviate in such a way.

They know better, they just don't care. Welcome to modern times. Who am I to tell people they can't spell like shit? I don't agree with it, but I'm just one in 6.8 billion people.

[Trifectionx]

falling in line and listening to what someone else says is fine to be just another guy. but u shud never condemn difference.

everything you know and love, every piece of creative work is deviance from the norm at some point. the much studied kansai dialect is wonderful. but i guess its just because no1 told they were dumb for saying something thats wrong.

then again i kno a lot of old ppl who don't like such changes so ur not alone.

close-mindedness and being stuck in ur ways shows a lack of intelligence.

i'm in mensa.

be srsly, this is off topic. so please stop in my thread.

[Trifectionx]

Originally Posted by myk

Yeah, ur right. lol.
I guess I've never thought of "relaxed" spelling before. That's an interesting, and admittedly valid, take on it.

i saw it to be reflective of something like the japanese masu etc. forms and short forms.

i appreciate you considering my opinion.

[dogsbody70]

Originally Posted by Trifectionx

perhaps, but i have always seen forums as a chance to let ur guard down. abbreviations, i see, as an expression of comfort and closeness.

you're would be spelled ur, but thts not important

I know many young people use abbreviations but on here where we have members from around the world-- whose English is a second language, I feel it will be more helpful to them to see the language in its correct form.

[dogsbody70]

Originally Posted by Trifectionx

wen i rite essays for my uni, i get heavily critiqued on my grammar, vocab, structure. its got to b topnotch. wen i wrote articles for website they always had to b flawless. me and my friend converse about the intricacies of english all day cos i have studies english grammar and phonetics and linguistics.

but i dnt think its in anyone's right to grill someone on their language and spelling on a forum. dnt make the internet a school.

i do however note that this forum seems to mostly use full standard english in most posts. so i could be the exception.

also, don't be so ambiguous about ur socalled proven point. what exactly did you prove?

Are you English? not criticising you but for those studying English language,

"My friend and I converse." PS congratulations on belonging to Mensa.

[SHAD0W]

Originally Posted by Trifectionx

i'm in mensa.

So why are you at Manchester and not Oxford?

[Tsuwabuki]

I generally try to use most mechanical or syntactical rules when writing on forums. This is especially true when it comes to sharing information with the intent to educate.

Which brings us back to the topic at hand. For explanations in how one might improve his or her ability to speak a second language, those replying should probably try to be fairly formal in their writing habits. This is to maximise clarity and understanding.

[Trifectionx]

Originally Posted by dogsbody70

Are you English? not criticising you but for those studying English language,

"My friend and I converse." PS congratulations on belonging to Mensa.

thanks, i think. cant reli tell if that was a flame.

tbh, with cases like that, its so widely used that foreign speakers better had learn it. it has somewhat become accepted.

for instance, what is the plural of octopus? 3 have become accepted in the modern language, but only one is correct.

if you don't learn these nuances, you can get confused.

also, i think my primary point was my lack of caring on the subject of grammatic accuracy and articulations on forums.

if we're are to argue the finer points. . .

this is for english learners:

negating adverbials should not be used to start sentences.
use of commas are. . .
wen using the "for" conjunction in such a way, there needs to be a conjunctive subordinate clause present.

now you know as well as i that this is nit-picky and that most passers-by won't have a clue what i'm talking about and so i think its fine to let things slip. pointing out those things is just fun and games.

btw, yes. manchester is in england. . .