native speakers teaching

[yuriyuri]

Originally Posted by BobbyCooper

who said it is wrong?

It is just very, very difficult to understand for non British people.

Which is the point of this thread.

Originally Posted by BobbyCooper

Oh they don't hate their accent, they just excused themself in front of people who aren't used to it.

That means something must be wrong with the way they talk right?

Americans never felt the need to excuse themself about not-understanable English.

This is what I was referring to.

[BobbyCooper]

Originally Posted by yuriyuri

This is what I was referring to.

oh typical mistake from a non-Native speaker

you knew what I mean, so why argue?

[Suki]

Originally Posted by BobbyCooper

Oh not at all Suki. All of my friends from the UK always told me, that they abuse their own language. Thats where I have this from

They actually know that American's speak correct English and they don't!


everyone excused themself about their terrible accent in front of me.

First of all, what do you mean by "abuse" their own language?

And how can someone ask to be excused for their accent? It makes no sense. There's not an accent that is right and better than the others.

Originally Posted by BobbyCooper

They are able to hide their accent like I mentioned earlier. People from the UK aren't able to do so.

This is so no true. And just because I have some time to kill I will give you a few examples:

Stephen Moyer, plays Bill in True Blood, I was shocked to death when I found out he was actually British cause in the series he speaks with a perfectly fine American accent.

Natascha McElhone, plays Karen in Californication, and not in a million years would have I guessed she was British cause she is perfectly capable of switching to an American accent and does so very naturally in the show.

Hugh Laurie aka Dr. House. Also British. Again, doesn't seem to have a problem "hiding" his "awful" British accent when portraying House.

There's many more but you get the idea.

And again, Americans don't hide their accents, you just don't notice much of one because you are used to the standard American accent and it sounds more common and natural to you, but it isn't so beacuse they speak better English, it's all a matter of what you are used to hearing, nothing more.

[BobbyCooper]

Originally Posted by Suki

First of all, what do you mean by "abuse" their own language?

And how can someone ask to be excused for their accent? It makes no sense. There's not an accent that is right and better than the others.



This is so no true. And just because I have some time to kill I will give you a few examples:

Stephen Moyer, plays Bill in True Blood, I was shocked to death when I found out he was actually British cause in the series he speaks with a perfectly fine American accent.

Natascha McElhone, plays Karen in Californication, and not in a million years would have I guessed she was British cause she is perfectly capable of switching to an American accent and does so very naturally in the show.

Hugh Laurie aka Dr. House. Also British. Again, doesn't seem to have a problem "hiding" his "awful" British accent when portraying House.

There's many more but you get the idea.

And again, Americans don't hide their accents, you just don't notice much of one because you are used to the standard American accent and it sounds more common and natural to you, but it isn't so beacuse they speak better English, it's all a matter of what you are used to hearing, nothing more.

It's not about the accents Suki.. it's about the English language.

It is extremely difficult to understand what most British people are trying to tell you.. where however most Americans are easy to understand.

the thing I was trying to say is, that I would like to understand my teacher.

I think most Japanese people would agree with me here, don't you think?

[yuriyuri]

Originally Posted by BobbyCooper

oh typical mistake from a non-Native speaker

you knew what I mean, so why argue?

Honestly I don't know why I am bothering posting in response to you anymore.
You seem to be unwilling to accept any other point of view despite the fact that several people have told you that what you are saying doesn't really hold that much water, you are constantly contradicting yourself and it feels like I am talking to a plank of wood.
So with that I will take my leave from this thread and go back to helping my language exchange partners with their British English

[BobbyCooper]

Originally Posted by yuriyuri

Honestly I don't know why I am bothering posting in response to you anymore.
You seem to be unwilling to accept any other point of view despite the fact that several people have told you that what you are saying doesn't really hold that much water, you are constantly contradicting yourself and it feels like I am talking to a plank of wood.
So with that I will take my leave from this thread and go back to helping my language exchange partners with their British English

Do what you have to do Sir and thanks again for your help!

but you cannot ignore the truth..

It is extremely difficult to understand what most British people are trying to tell you.. where however most Americans are easy to understand.

the thing I was trying to say is, that I would like to understand my teacher.

I think most Japanese people would agree with me here, don't you think?

[Suki]

Originally Posted by BobbyCooper

It's not about the accents Suki.. it's about the English language.

It is extremely difficult to understand what most British people are trying to tell you.. where however most Americans are easy to understand.

What substantial difference is there that makes British English so much harder to understand as compared to American?

Cause I can't think of many differences in language, other than the accent and a few words they use that are not used in American, but I can't see how that would be a problem once you learn them, really.

If you find it difficult to understand "what most British people try to tell you" when they are communicating in English, maybe the problem is you're not as good at it as you claim to be.

[BobbyCooper]

Originally Posted by Suki

What substantial difference is there that makes British English so much harder to understand as compared to American?

Cause I can't think of many differences in language, other than the accent and a few words they use that are not used in American, but I can't see how that would be a problem once you learn them, really.

If you find it difficult to understand "what most British people try to tell you" when they are communicating in English, maybe the problem is you're not as good at it as you claim to be.

Suki hunny^^ you know I am good! I traveled around the Globe only using English to get along. Thats where I have this experience from.

The difference is of course the accent.

British people = very hard to understand

Scotish/Irish = almost impossible for starters

American = Easy

German non-Native = Easy

[Suki]

Originally Posted by BobbyCooper

The difference is of course the accent.

But you just said it wasn't about the accents:

Originally Posted by BobbyCooper

It's not about the accents Suki.. it's about the English language.

Get it together, mate.

Originally Posted by BobbyCooper

British people = very hard to understand

Scotish/Irish = almost impossible for starters

American = Easy

Ok, this must be so FOR YOU, but it IS NOT a universal truth.

Most of the people I know find British accents easier to understand because it's the one we learn at school and about 90% of the English teachers here are British. So for anyone who hasn't been under the influence of movies and American TV (kinda hard these days), British will still be easier for them cause it's the only accent they have been in contact with.

Maybe in Germany you get more American teachers than British (which I doubt), but in Spain people are way more used to the British accent and therefore find it easier to understand.

As for Scotish, the Scotish accent is somehow similiar to what would be a shitty accent spoken by a Spanish person with a poor level of English, cause they roll the r's and stuff, so not hard at all.

[BobbyCooper]

You surely have never meet a Scotish or Irish person then

Perhaps they are Aliens or something.. I really don't know, but it's certainly not from this World.

You try to argue about something which isn't debatable Suki. Everybody knows that British people hard to understand and Americans not so much.

Also of course, German or Dutch English speakers are much easier to understand than Spanish ones. thats obviously correct!