The counter fun 分????

[davidshao12]

In my studies I ran across the counter fun sometimes being pronounced bun. I know it is pronounced pun sometimes. Is there a reason that it may be pronounced bun sometimes or is it just a mistake.

EX. sanjubbun
sanjuppun

[KyleGoetz]

Originally Posted by davidshao12

In my studies I ran across the counter fun sometimes being pronounced bun. I know it is pronounced pun sometimes. Is there a reason that it may be pronounced bun sometimes or is it just a mistake.

EX. sanjubbun
sanjuppun

Well, not as a counter (I used to say よんぶん and さんぶん all the time by mistake), but 三分する and 四分する both make it ぶん (they mean, respectively, to cut into three pieces and to cut into four pieces).

[masaegu]

Originally Posted by davidshao12

　
EX. sanjubbun
sanjuppun

It is NEVER read the first way.

Half an hour = さんじゅっぷん

1/30 = 　さんじゅうぶんのいち

[KyleGoetz]

Originally Posted by masaegu

It is NEVER read the first way.

Hal an hour = さんじゅっぷん

1/30 = 　さんじゅうぶんのいち

Oh yeah, there we go! It is often ぶん for a different counter meaning (denominators/"parts")!

Now I remember why I always make the mistake of saying １：０２ as ending with にぶん! Because of that blasted manga らんまにぶんのいち (that I read religiously as a kid)!

[Sumippi]

When we count minutes we say 'ippun, nihun, sanpun, yonhun/yonpun, gohun, roppun, nanahun, happun, kyuuhun, juppun, nijuppun, sanjuppun,...hyappun' etc.

But...

when we count something long, like... trees, sticks, pencils, films, bottles, cigarettes or bananas (What else? There must be more.), we say 'ippon, nihon, sanbon, yonhon, gohon, roppon, nanahon, happon, kyuuhon, juppon, nijuppon, sanjuppon, ...hyappon,' etc.

では小テスト。よ～く見てくださいね～

>゜))))彡　　←これは、いっぴきめのさかなです。
>゜))))彡　　←これは、にひきめのさかなです。
>゜))))彡　　←これは、さんびきめのさかなです。

おぼえましたか？では、

>゜))))彡　　←これは、うえの３つのうちの、どれ かです。これはなんひきめのさかなでしょうか？

(This riddle doesn't work in English.)

（あそんでごめんなさいww）

[davidshao12]

Originally Posted by Sumippi

When we count minutes we say 'ippun, nihun, sanpun, yonhun/yonpun, gohun, roppun, nanahun, happun, kyuuhun, juppun, nijuppun, sanjuppun,...hyappun' etc.

But...

when we count something long, like... trees, sticks, pencils, films, bottles, cigarettes or bananas (What else? There must be more.), we say 'ippon, nihon, sanbon, yonhon, gohon, roppon, nanahon, happon, kyuuhon, juppon, nijuppon, sanjuppon, ...hyappon,' etc.

では小テスト。よ～く見てくださいね～

>゜))))彡　　←これは、いっぴきめのさかなです。
>゜))))彡　　←これは、にひきめのさかなです。
>゜))))彡　　←これは、さんびきめのさかなです。

おぼえましたか？では、

>゜))))彡　　←これは、うえの３つのうちの、どれ かです。これはなんひきめのさかなでしょうか？

(This riddle doesn't work in English.)

（あそんでごめんなさいww）

ごめんたさい　　So the book made a mistake

[Sumippi]

Originally Posted by davidshao12

ごめんたさい　　So the book made a mistake

It's not 「ごめんたさい」but 「ごめんなさい」ですけど、but you don't have to apologize.

...So you can't solve my riddle?

[masaegu]

Originally Posted by Sumippi

but you don't have to apologize.

いや、これには訳があるんです。このおっさん（なんて 多分十代だけど）、勝手ににスミッピさんや私が自分の カキコを読み間違えて、まったく我々が質問に答えてい ないかのように、かなり失礼なことを書いてきたんです 。で、なんだこいつと思い、しばらくして戻ってきたら 書きなおしてたんです。謝ったってわからないのにね。
＿＿＿＿

こいさんのクイズどう考えても分かりません。

[KyleGoetz]

Originally Posted by Sumippi

When we count minutes we say 'ippun, nihun, sanpun, yonhun/yonpun, gohun, roppun, nanahun, happun, kyuuhun, juppun, nijuppun, sanjuppun,...hyappun' etc.

But...

when we count something long, like... trees, sticks, pencils, films, bottles, cigarettes or bananas (What else? There must be more.), we say 'ippon, nihon, sanbon, yonhon, gohon, roppon, nanahon, happon, kyuuhon, juppon, nijuppon, sanjuppon, ...hyappon,' etc.

では小テスト。よ～く見てくださいね～

>゜))))彡　　←これは、いっぴきめのさかなです。
>゜))))彡　　←これは、にひきめのさかなです。
>゜))))彡　　←これは、さんびきめのさかなです。

おぼえましたか？では、

>゜))))彡　　←これは、うえの３つのうちの、どれ かです。これはなんひきめのさかなでしょうか？

(This riddle doesn't work in English.)

（あそんでごめんなさいww）

..いっぴきめんだ！

[chryuop]

Sorry if I add a little extra to the question. I have found a long time ago 分 used as counter for seats reserved at a restaurants. My dictionary doesn't really include that meaning so I cannot check it out again. When used with that meaning is it pronounced ぷん　ｏｒ　ぶん?