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Passive / Causative - 11-23-2007, 04:42 PM

Hi everyone,

I'm currently learning all the different ways of conjugating Japanese verbs.
I am learning this from a dictionary and it insists on only using the technical terms for everything without any examples.

After much difficulty I have worked everything out except 3 conjugations as below:
Using the verb はなす
はなされる - Passive
はなさせる - Causative
はなさせられる - Causative Passive

Does anybody understand the difference between these conjugations and please provide a few more examples. This is a really painful thing to learn, thanks in advance!!!
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11-24-2007, 12:03 AM

This page explains the two forms (and their combination) quite well:

Causative and Passive Forms - Tae Kim's Japanese grammar guide
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11-24-2007, 02:24 AM

Awesome,that explains it perfectly.
ありがとうございます。
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11-24-2007, 08:24 AM

Frankly speaking, you ought to be getting yourself a good japanese guidance book instead of doing it the hard way, that is through a dictionary.
Any one who is serious in learning a foreign language should get at least a good book for reference..... besides watching anime, listening jpop, seaching wikis and online websites.


Hokkaido e ikitai........
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