Japanese... A dying langauge?

[IhrTodeswunsch]

Hello. I've been wanting to move to Japan since... well forever. As far back as I can remember, and I do my best to try to learn it. I'm still learning it, and going as fast as I can and what not.. yada yada.

But the more and more I learn Japanese, and about Japanese culture, I quickly find out that it's dying. A lot of Labels on food products and everything in Japan are in English. As are the Company Logo's as well! And even though I still plan on moving to Japan, and I still believe that I should learn the language... It makes me sad to see that Japanese is dying. (As are all of the other Languages of the world! German Espically, and I love German!) I want to get >AWAY< from English. I don't like the sound of how I talk. (It's like nails on a chalk board in my mind and when I talk) >.<.

So, anywhos.. the point of this is... I want to hear some other peoples opinion on this situation. And maybe some from Natives of Japan.

It's a real sad thing to me... it really is.

-IhrTodeswunsch

EDIT: Just reading over this and forgot to ad this... Also how they use words half from English, and half from Japanese. Or all out English. Like for Instance, pasokon (Personal Computer), or keeki (Cake), rasshu awaa (Rush Hour), or orenji (Orange), or suteeki (steak). It just makes me all frustrated to see that >.<. I don't want English mixing in with other Languages!

[emiluvsjmusic]

well it has a lot more culture than some countries
anyway basically every country is becoming westernised...

[IhrTodeswunsch]

Originally Posted by emiluvsjmusic

well it has a lot more culture than some countries
anyway basically every country is becoming westernised...

Yes... it does, which is another reason I love Japan ^.^.
And that was the point though, how almost every country is becoming "westernised." I really do hate it. :E

[emiluvsjmusic]

me too Q_Q

[Pax]

Well your`re right with the Labels and the Company Names. There is the major opinion that "english" just sounds cool and exotic in languages like german or japanese... BUT most of the japanese, or german people can´t really speak or understand english. Here in Germany we start learning english as a fourth grader with the age of 10 and it is a thing you can´t avoid during your time at school. But still, the majority just knows a few words and phrases. Same goes for China and Japan. During my time there i was lucky if the taxi driver understood at least where i wanted to go.

I don´t think that these languages are "dying". But the areas were those languages are spoken, aren´t very large or important any more. English is easy to learn and except for chinese, spoken by a great number of people. It´s just the universal language, some sort of heir to the latin.

[IhrTodeswunsch]

Originally Posted by Pax

Well your`re right with the Labels and the Company Names. There is the major opinion that "english" just sounds cool and exotic in languages like german or japanese... BUT most of the japanese, or german people can´t really speak or understand english. Here in Germany we start learning english as a fourth grader with the age of 10 and it is a thing you can´t avoid during your time at school. But still, the majority just knows a few words and phrases. Same goes for China and Japan. During my time there i was lucky if the taxi driver understood at least where i wanted to go.

I don´t think that these languages are "dying". But the areas were those languages are spoken, aren´t very large or important any more. English is easy to learn and except for chinese, spoken by a great number of people. It´s just the universal language, some sort of heir to the latin.

Hmm.. that does make a lot of sense. Like, for instance.. Programming. It's all in English, and I thought "You had to be fluent in English to Program" but Now with stating that... I just realized that you just have to know bits and phrases of things in order to program. And their only phrases. That's pretty interesting.
And also, we take words too! But we flip them a lot, for instance... "hentai" we use that word, and it's widely used (I guess in an Underground sense). Hmm.. Thanks! That was a big help.

[JuSan]

The thing about it is that English is a (for lack of better phrasing) a dumb language (no offense I am an English Primary person). It's just super easy, there is no stern sentence structure (least not much anymore), words don't change based off of use or gender, and slang eventualy ends up in the dictionary (I HATE AIN'T,especialy when I catch myself use it). I mean there is a reason they teach monkeys and apes to sign in English. I really don't think (and sincerly hope) that English won't become the standard language of the world, I think it's currently a trend and the hot thing. Don't forget there are German and Portugese (amongst others) words used in Japanese. Ironicaly spainish is looking like it's becoming the national language of the US.

[emiluvsjmusic]

english will die? yay! i think english is the stupidest language -__-

[JuSan]

Yeah....Look at Sanscrit, Latin, and Aramaich(spelling?). Were around for hundreds of years then...*poof*. I like the idea of passing on the culture of the past. I want to finish learning as much Latin as possible, and I am trying to learn the folk tale, fairy tales, and myths of places like China, Japan, Italy, Greece, and Egypt. I want to pass those things on. I love the phrase "Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it. The best thing we can do is learn these other languages, teach them to others and speak them to each other, even if it's just a little code think between friends.

[MMM]

Originally Posted by JuSan

The thing about it is that English is a (for lack of better phrasing) a dumb language (no offense I am an English Primary person). It's just super easy, there is no stern sentence structure (least not much anymore), words don't change based off of use or gender, and slang eventualy ends up in the dictionary (I HATE AIN'T,especialy when I catch myself use it). I mean there is a reason they teach monkeys and apes to sign in English. I really don't think (and sincerly hope) that English won't become the standard language of the world, I think it's currently a trend and the hot thing. Don't forget there are German and Portugese (amongst others) words used in Japanese. Ironicaly spainish is looking like it's becoming the national language of the US.

Super easy? Tell that to a Japanese speaker. English is a very difficult language to learn for the very reason there are so many bent rules...even in the Queen's English.

American Sign Language is taught to monkeys and apes by English Speaking Researchers....let's not get to silly here. I am sure Japanese researchers teach Japanese Sign Language to Japanese monkeys.

Too late, but English is the standard language of communication in international situations.

Oh, and there is nothing "dumb" about English. I think you could find a better phrase. It functions pretty well for a language that is mashed from so many sources.