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Sentence structure in Kanji - 11-25-2007, 05:34 PM

Allright im currently teaching myself kanji with this extremely helpfull website Kanji flashcard thing honestly i couldent think of an easyer way to learn kanji and its working great for me. What i want to know is that when i am writing sentences in kanji do i include particles because i havent learned any in kanji yet so im not sure if they exist.


For example if i want to write the boy can . i know that the sentence structure in japaneese is subject object verb would i simply write in kanji boy run can. or would i have kanji for thigns like "the" and "a" or "an" and for conjuctions also. Also if i have a more complex sentence such as the boy can run and walk fast how would i write that because now its more complicated then simply subject object verb and where do i put the adjective fast at?
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For example if i want to write the boy can . i know that the sentence structure in japaneese is subject object verb would i simply write in kanji boy run can. or would i have kanji for thigns like "the" and "a" or "an" and for conjuctions also. Also if i have a more complex sentence such as the boy can run and walk fast how would i write that because now its more complicated then simply subject object verb and where do i put the adjective fast at?
You need to learn Japanese grammar. There is no "the" or "a" (articles) in Japanese. Japanese uses a mixture of hiragana, katakana, and kanji. I'm surprised that you're even making an effort learning kanji before learning how this works.

Read and internalize information like what's written here: Japanese writing system
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11-25-2007, 10:52 PM

So you are learning kanji without learning Japanese? I don't get it.
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welll duhhh i know that a an and the dont exist in japaneese but they have particles nontheless, my point is that i want to know if there is any kanji for theese particles, and i also stated i wanted to know where adjectives fit into the sentence structure they have.

Hmm i was under the impresion they rarely use hirigana and katakana when writing stuff, and yes im teaching my self japaneese too but the gramar that ive read so far wasent very clear on many things.
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welll duhhh i know that a an and the dont exist in japaneese but they have particles nontheless, my point is that i want to know if there is any kanji for theese particles, and i also stated i wanted to know where adjectives fit into the sentence structure they have.

Hmm i was under the impresion they rarely use hirigana and katakana when writing stuff, and yes im teaching my self japaneese too but the gramar that ive read so far wasent very clear on many things.
Woah woah woah. Get yourself to a teacher, STAT.

If something doesn't exist in Japanese, then there is no kanji for it.

There are no kanji for particles. Particles like は、が、に、へ、を etc. are all written in hiragana.

Rarely used hiragana and katakana? Where are you getting your information? Have you ever looked at a Japanese sentence?

日本語はカタカナとひらがなと漢字で書きます。

Look at the above, typical Japanese sentence. You see a mix of hiragana, katakana and kanji. That's what a typical Japanese sentence looks like. Are you sure you weren't looking at Chinese sentences?
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Allright im currently teaching myself kanji with this extremely helpfull website Kanji flashcard thing honestly i couldent think of an easyer way to learn kanji and its working great for me. What i want to know is that when i am writing sentences in kanji do i include particles because i havent learned any in kanji yet so im not sure if they exist.


For example if i want to write the boy can . i know that the sentence structure in japaneese is subject object verb would i simply write in kanji boy run can. or would i have kanji for thigns like "the" and "a" or "an" and for conjuctions also. Also if i have a more complex sentence such as the boy can run and walk fast how would i write that because now its more complicated then simply subject object verb and where do i put the adjective fast at?
I think you might be confusing Japanese with Chinese, you'll need to pick up a book (or find a website) on Japanese Grammar. Also, before you even THINK about learning Kanji, you should learn that Japanese syllabic alphabets of Hiragana and Katakana. A quick google for "learn hiragana" should give you more than enough resources.

Good luck learning Japanese!
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11-26-2007, 11:02 AM

i know im talking about particles like wa and there are some others but at the moment i cant rember any but when you say something like watashi wa wa is a particle and i just wanted to know if there is kanji for particles like that which is no, and nobody has answered where adjectives go in the japaneese sentence structure.
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i know im talking about particles like wa and there are some others but at the moment i cant rember any but when you say something like watashi wa wa is a particle and i just wanted to know if there is kanji for particles like that which is no, and nobody has answered where adjectives go in the japaneese sentence structure.
Most common particles don't have kanji, and if they do, they're generally archaic and not used in modern Japanese.

Adjectives go BEFORE the nouns that they modify.

Work on your English. It's poorly written and hard to understand.
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11-26-2007, 08:06 PM

reading that now, the only thing hard to understand about it, is i dident always put commas where i paused and its a run on sentence but that fact dosent make it hard to understand.

Thanks though that should make things alot easyer for me.
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