Inception (2010)

[myk]

Originally Posted by MMM

Naturally there is no definitive way to qualify a list of films that are "the best". I would say even one base on popular opinion would be less desirable, as you would have a list that looks like the testosterone based one at IMDB.

Yeah, true. I didn't really like what I saw on the IMDB list, either. But all the critics' picks I've seen seem stuffy and have an elitist air about them, which to me doesn't seem much better.

[BobbyCooper]

Originally Posted by MMM

Naturally there is no definitive way to qualify a list of films that are "the best". I would say even one base on popular opinion would be less desirable, as you would have a list that looks like the testosterone based one at IMDB.

The best lists are from the people who are your average Movie watcher. Or the one from Quentin Tarantino

And because IMDB is the most popular thing out there right now, that alone should qualify it as being reliable. Feel free and show me another list from people who voted.. there must be more out there.

I don't know which list you might find acceptable.. but this list doesn't exist I think.

[MMM]

Originally Posted by BobbyCooper

The best lists are from the people who are your average Movie watcher. Or the one from Quentin Tarantino

And because IMDB is the most popular thing out there right now, that alone should qualify it as being reliable. Feel free and show me another list from people who voted.. there must be more out there.

I don't know which list you might find acceptable.. but this list doesn't exist I think.

You were complaining that people were saying Inception in in people's Top 10 Films of All Time. I asked for links. IMBD was presented. I say IMBD doesn't count because it isn't a list of individual's Top 10 Films of All Time, but an average of user rankings.

"Reliability" has nothing to do with anything.

[BobbyCooper]

Originally Posted by MMM

You were complaining that people were saying Inception in in people's Top 10 Films of All Time. I asked for links. IMBD was presented. I say IMBD doesn't count because it isn't a list of individual's Top 10 Films of All Time, but an average of user rankings.

"Reliability" has nothing to do with anything.

I thought we already moved past the fact that it's based on the individual himself and not some Movie snob who might think that Inception belongs there or not and that we moved on in finding the most reliable list out there?!

here..

The formula for calculating the Top Rated 250 Titles gives a true Bayesian estimate:

weighted rating (WR) = (v ÷ (v+m)) × R + (m ÷ (v+m)) × C

where:

* R = average for the movie (mean) = (Rating)
* v = number of votes for the movie = (votes)
* m = minimum votes required to be listed in the Top 250 (currently 3000)
* C = the mean vote across the whole report (currently 6.9)


for the Top 250, only votes from regular voters are considered.

I really don't know what to criticize here.

[myk]

Originally Posted by BobbyCooper

I thought we already moved past the fact that it's based on the individual himself and not some Movie snob who might think that Inception belongs there or not and that we moved on in finding the most reliable list out there?!

"Reliable" is a relative term. I think the main point was that a list that everyone can agree on is impossible to find. Some value the opinions of critics and other movie industry illuminaries, while others take what the masses say as truth.

Like The Dude from The Big Lebowski said, "That's just, like, your opinion, man."

[BobbyCooper]

Originally Posted by myk

"Reliable" is a relative term. I think the main point was that a list that everyne can agree on is impossible to find. Some value the opinions of critics and other movie industry illuminaries, while others take what the masses say as truth.

Like The Dude from The Big Lebowski said, "That's just, like, your opinion, man."

well, mostly what the masses say is true isn't it? Same applys to our democracy system same should work for Movies.

Otherwise we would have the monarchy back where the "movie Industry" aka the 1. status group gives there only truthful opinion.

[myk]

Originally Posted by BobbyCooper

well, mostly what the masses say is true isn't it? Same applys to our democracy system same should work for Movies.

Otherwise we would have the monarchy back

In terms of pure democracy, yes, you're absolutely right. Although I do think that some (the critics) know better than others. However, the critics tend to pick movies that are beyond the minds of most regular people. I'm not going one way or the other I'm just saying that we're trying to measure something immeasurable here.

[BobbyCooper]

Originally Posted by myk

In terms of pure democracy, yes, you're absolutely right. Although I do think that some (the critics) know better than others. However, the critics tend to pick movies that are beyond the minds of most regular people. I'm not going one way or the other I'm just saying that we're trying to measure something immeasurable here.

You are absolutely correct!

How about you, MMM and myself do a little top 10 list just for the fun?

could take a little while though..

[myk]

Originally Posted by BobbyCooper

You are absolutely correct!

How about you, MMM and myself do a little top 10 list just for the fun?

could take a little while though..

I actually had to do that very thing a couple months ago for a class.
Here it is:

10. Moon
9. Brothers
8. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
7. Friday Night Lights
6. Jarhead
5. Mononoke Hime
4. Goodfellas
3. Kids
2. Taxi Driver
1. Platoon


Honorable Mention: American Beauty

[BobbyCooper]

Originally Posted by myk

I actually had to do that very thing a couple months ago for a class.
Here it is:

10. Moon
9. Brothers
8. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
7. Friday Night Lights
6. Jarhead
5. Mononoke Hime
4. Goodfellas
3. Kids
2. Taxi Driver
1. Platoon


Honorable Mention: American Beauty

Now thats what I call a adventurous list

I will need a little more time!

GoodFellas and Platoon are also in mine :P