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07-01-2008, 08:55 AM
As an Aikidoka I take offence to this, although to a certain degree I also agree. The techniques themselves don't work if your a beginner (and I class beginnner as having studied for less than 2 years) and you get jumped on the street. However the basic principle of movement; of getting out of danger, does. Aikido isn't the techniques; the throws or the ability to break bones. Its the art of blending with your opponent, redirecting his/her energy so that you can get out of harms way. And once your out of the way of a direct attack (puch, kick, etc) then you can do the second most important thing in a fight - run.
Lets be honest here, when you learn a Martial Art your learning to defend yourself. The best way of protecting your life is by not being in the fight. And I'm now going to add something to the whole size and gender issue: it doesn't matter what size, gender, hair color, etc that you are. If you have the belief, the commitment and the drive to make a technique work then it will. Thats all you need, because once you start to second guess yourself then you lose. Just my 2p worth. |
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07-01-2008, 01:31 PM
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07-01-2008, 04:55 PM
I more or less agree with you about Aikido. It is a pacifist's art and aimed at doing everything you can to NOT kill or seriously injure your opponent. Even still, as has been pointed out already by CrazyLee, Aikido does teach some very good techniques for surviving an attack.
I also agree with you that size can be a big help to anyone who knows how to use it when it comes to ground fighting. However, our cumulative system is designed for fighting the Average Joe who has not trained in BJJ, Muay Thai, and Shaolin Kung Fu. This means that our smaller students have an advantage, even over larger opponents. Your average street ass hole won't know how to break fall, won't know how to escape an arm bar, won't know that posting will get him rolled by someone half his body mass, etc. Our system is NOT designed for fighting people that have commited a lot of time to training in a martial system. A trained individual such as yourself would likely be a hard target for something as basic as an eye gouge, even without the reach advantage you would have over a 5'6" female. But trained individuals such as yourself are not what we're worried about. However, even a trained person can succumb to the basics. To demonstrate: Kenpo is known for redirecting the opponents attention to land a strike. They will telegraph horridly with the right hand to make the opponent watch the hand (even one who knows better than to actually look at the hand will have more attention on the hand than elsewhere). Then a left snap kick will hit the opponent just below the rib cage. Left Snap Kick, aka Front Leg Front Kick, is the very first kick you learn in any system, anywhere (excepting maybe ground fighting systems). It doesn't get more basic than that. My school teaches very similar methods in the lower black belt levels to ensure that the basic eye gouge and basic groin kick are still effective, even against someone who's been in fights before. Hit and Run is actually a very good strategy when you're in a street fight. If you can disable your opponent, even if only for a few seconds, and get away, you will be far less likely to get arrested for use of unwarranted force. In war, things are probably a bit different; hence Krav Maga would be a little differently applied by the military than by the civilian sector. Regardless, we're talking about a system that is designed to teach you self-defense, not how to beat the shit out of someone in a battle or a ring--all this goes for Civilian KM and for my own school's Yon Wuen Fa and any other system that is specifically sd oriented. If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you actually make them think, they'll hate you. ~Don Marquis Quote:
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07-03-2008, 07:19 PM
Lol, "fun", eh? Since I lack the ability to do a one hit KO punch, I'd say it's a lack of options rather than 'fun'.
But, as I've said, the goal is survival regardless of how it's attained--short of killing the other guy, if at all possible, of course. Quote:
Your move would work nicely, too :3 . Agreed. Though eye gouges are one of the first techniques we learn, we're taught in class and in lecture (yes, we get lectures on occassion) to use it pretty much only when we're certain life and/or limb are in real danger. That out of control guy might be out of control enough that he is trying to break your arm or choke you out or (for women) even rape you. As those present very real threats, the law in California justifies the use of whatever force you can bring to bear to escape the immediate threat. If the guy tried to sue you later, the laws regarding defensive use of force would be on your side--unless you also lost control and proceeded to do a lot more than scratch his eyeballs. Most of the lectures we recieve from our head instructor are regarding law so that we don't ever go overboard. He's an ex-cop, so he's pretty familiar with the subject. When he doesn't lecture us law and justification of force, he gives us lessons on criminal psychology, which is usually pretty interesting. *Another situation we're taught to use eye gouges in is when facing multiple opponents. For a guy, this might be in a bar fight were ten people are just attacking you because you rooted for the wrong team. For a woman, it might be an ambush in an alley where there are three or four guys. If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you actually make them think, they'll hate you. ~Don Marquis Quote:
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07-15-2008, 08:32 PM
I have a question, here is a list of all martial arts and there is no Kung Fu mentioned, except 2 styls of it or so, is it just because nobody made a list like for karate or is the "normal" Kung Fu no martial art? And what are the requirenments for the styls to be part of the Martial Art?
When they are shot through the heart by the bullet of a pistol? No. When they are ravaged by an incurable disease? No. When they drink a soup made from a poisonous mushroom? No! It's when... they are forgotten. ~Dr. Hiluluk - One Piece |
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