Wii or PS3?

[MissMisa]

Originally Posted by XjapanFOREVER

true.
the wii is a good console, but it's not the best by performance, which is how a console should be judged, not by personal preference.

No I really don't think so. Perfomance means NOTHING if it has bad games.

A games console should be judged and how fun and engaging it is to play, after all that is the actual point in playing video games.

[MissMisa]

Originally Posted by Hisuwashi

Ohh lucky Yeah I do too, about the N64. I used to spend so many precious minutes just enchanted by it. After playing Yoshi's Story I used to pretend to be a Yoshi and stuff in the playground at school... it was a riot. LOL this must make you all think I'm mad.

All this debate is just silly anyway... Nintendo stuff is just better, end of, OK. I only like the PlayStation for some of the later Final Fantasy games and Kingdom Hearts, that's it pretty much.

Yoshi's Story was amazing!

Playstation don't even make those games anyway, no credit goes to them for Final Fantasy or Kingdom Hearts. Nintendo actually have their own games people can comment on, because they make solely game related stuff.

All Playstation does is approve the games on there consoles, big wow.

[XjapanFOREVER]

Originally Posted by MissMisa

No I really don't think so. Perfomance means NOTHING if it has bad games.

A games console should be judged and how fun and engaging it is to play, after all that is the actual point in playing video games.

we're judging the consoles, not the games for the consoles...

I agree, but that's irrelevent (sp?) to the topic.

btw, you should try editing, double-posting frequently is frowned upon

*sorry for leaving, had to cut grass.... XD

[Tyrien]

Originally Posted by MissMisa

The Wii is so much better. It's new. The rest of them are just fancy updates of their predecessors. Wii has new features and innovation.

PS3 seem to have failed miserably. They are terribly over-priced, and everyone has an Xbox which has the same games a PS3 has. The only difference is it has blu-ray, which I personally don't give a damn about.

Overpriced? It's $50 more than a 360. $50 LESS than the elite. Don't try and make arguments in a console debate if you're going to try and use outdated arguments.

Originally Posted by MissMisa

Actually, I am very well educated about video games and my future career will be in game design. I know technically the Wii specs are just a slightly upgraded GameCube. In terms of GAMEPLAY, the Wii is completely new and original. In terms of Xbox and Playstation gameplay, they are just the same. Pretty graphics, similar controller, same old same old. I know what Blu-Ray is for and I know I don't need it. The disks can hold more space than normal CDs so the games can be bigger. Consoles can be technically brilliant, but if the games are just the same as all the others there is no point.


I know they are called multi-platform thank you very much. As a game player whether a console is technically great doesn't matter. The fun you get from playing the game does, in my opinion, as that is the actual POINT in playing games at all. In terms of graphics and all the other pointless technical power sucking, of course Playstation wins. Have you seen the price on the thing?


So what if PS3 is doing better than 360 in Europe? Globally it is doing the worst out of the new gen consoles.

Here are the sales figures of the consoles.

Worldwide sales figures

1. Wii: 24.45 million, as of March 31, 2008[20]
2. Xbox 360: 19 million, as of April 25, 2008[23]
3. PlayStation 3: 13 million, as of April 21, 2008[24][25]

Canada sales figures

Based on figures from the NPD Group.

1. Xbox 360: 736,400, as of February 1, 2008[26]
2. Wii: 689,500, as of February 1, 2008[26]
3. PlayStation 3: 342,400, as of February 1, 2008[26]

Japan sales figures

Based on figures from Famitsu/Enterbrain.

1. Wii: 5,695,579, as of March 30, 2008[27][28]
2. PlayStation 3: 2,009,492, as of March 30, 2008[27][28]
3. Xbox 360: 602,558, as of March 30, 2008[27][28]

US sales figures

Based on figures from the NPD Group.

1. Xbox 360: 9.15 million, as of January 1, 2008[29][30][31]
2. Wii: 7.38 million, as of January 1, 2008[29][30][31]
3. PlayStation 3: 3.25 million, as of January 1, 2008[29][30][31]


Is the playstation ever at the top? Nope. So maybe in Europe it's doing better than Xbox 360, big wow, but the rest of the world isn't buying it.

If you want to factor in lauch dates the PS3 is second. The wii sells like crack theres no denying but the wii is something different from the 360 and PS3, it's of no threat to them. The 360 his a hit in NA, other than that it's not that exciting in terms of pure sales.

Though I don't know why you're trying to bring up an irrelevant argument like this. It doesn't really mean anything. The Wii isn't a direct competition to the others and the 360 has been out an entire year longer than both of them, naturally it's going to have better sales.

Originally Posted by XjapanFOREVER

COMPLETELY AGREE.
@Pappasmurf, Loading times are WAY faster, loading time for the PS3 version of OBLIVION were almost cut in half compared to the 360 version.

PLAYSTATION 3.

Better Exclusives (Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy, Heavenly Sword Trilogy, and all future Grand Theft Autos [after IV])
Better Graphics (what more needs to be said, really there is no comparison in this category.
Less chance of getting hurt through SIXAXIS gameplay (Lulzzz)
The addition of PLAYSTATION HOME in the coming months.
More raw processing power.
Can also double as a George Forman Grill!!!


The only "good" exclusive the Wii has going for it is Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Good game, but it can't carry a console... Halo tried..... XDDDDD)
pre-atari graphics, (obvious exaggeration), not what you'd expect from "Next Gen Console"
No significant online features
No cooking features!

The PS3 is wayyyy superior by all means.


Source for the GTA news, sonydefenseforce.com , sure, it's a biased site, but you can't argue with their sources!!!!

Sorry, stop. Now.

God I can't even believe that you brought SDF into this. That site isn't even news it's not even bias it's satirical.

Yes, Smash bros can carry a console. It sold over 2.3 million in the first month of sales.

I (probably) said this earlier in the thread. You cannot compare PS3 and Wii and argue which is better. Both are aiming to do completely different things. The wii is targeted heavily at casual gaming. It's not focusing on online either. It's supposed to be something anyone can pick up and play and nintendo has achieved that. The massive amounts of people aren't the same people who bought games last generation. There's no contest between the two and quite frankly they coexist together.

Originally Posted by MissMisa

Oh and Wii doesn't need to be carried. It is smashing the console market in nearly every country. You can't argue with sales.

Again, stop brining sales figures into this. The people who buy the wii are not from the same market that buy the PS3. The PS3 is brought by video/audiophiles and gamers. The Wii is bought by a LOT more demographics. Moms, old people, families, retirement centers, hopitals. It's not the same group of people so saying one is selling more, therefore it's winnning.

Originally Posted by XjapanFOREVER

true.
the wii is a good console, but it's not the best by performance, which is how a console should be judged, not by personal preference.

No, actually it's personal preference. You're the one buying it so you make your own reasons for liking it.

Lol, you guys are trying to argue which is better when you can't even decide why one should be better than the other.

I still rpefer the PS3. I use it every day even if it's not for games. I <3 my pink entertainment hub.

I'd get a Wii but I don't have the money to invest right now. Smash Bros is really the only game I'd be going for though, to be honest. Twilight princess wasn't that thrilling. It felt like ocarina of time with some different controls.

Anyway, I'm only in work on OT so iI'm going now.

[Hisuwashi]

Originally Posted by MissMisa

Yoshi's Story was amazing!

Playstation don't even make those games anyway, no credit goes to them for Final Fantasy or Kingdom Hearts. Nintendo actually have their own games people can comment on, because they make solely game related stuff.

All Playstation does is approve the games on there consoles, big wow.

I know. And back in the days of when they affiliated with Nintendo, they were known as Squaresoft.

[MissMisa]

Originally Posted by Tyrien

Overpriced? It's $50 more than a 360. $50 LESS than the elite. Don't try and make arguments in a console debate if you're going to try and use outdated arguments.

I wasn't comparing it to the Xbox, I was comparing it to the Wii. The Wii is undeniably cheaper because it isn't as powerful, thus making it more accessible to students like me. Price is a larger factor for people like me, so some power has to be compromised.

Originally Posted by Tyrien

If you want to factor in lauch dates the PS3 is second. The wii sells like crack theres no denying but the wii is something different from the 360 and PS3, it's of no threat to them. The 360 his a hit in NA, other than that it's not that exciting in terms of pure sales.

Though I don't know why you're trying to bring up an irrelevant argument like this. It doesn't really mean anything. The Wii isn't a direct competition to the others and the 360 has been out an entire year longer than both of them, naturally it's going to have better sales.

It's of no threat? They are all games consoles competing with each other. Wii has gone for a wider audience, therefore gaining more sales. I agree we should take into account the release dates and so on. Though I agree they are not directly competing, as they are aiming at different audiences. Whereas Xbox 360 and PS3 are going for the similar type of audience.

Here is a good place for all the charts if you want to compare different factors yourself VGChartz.com |

Originally Posted by Tyrien

Again, stop brining sales figures into this. The people who buy the wii are not from the same market that buy the PS3. The PS3 is brought by video/audiophiles and gamers. The Wii is bought by a LOT more demographics. Moms, old people, families, retirement centers, hopitals. It's not the same group of people so saying one is selling more, therefore it's winnning.

I brought sales figures up in the first place because somebody else mentioned them, and I thought it was irrelevant to just mention Europe when there is the rest of the world to think about.

Originally Posted by girlgamer1984

It has outsold 360 in Europe, considering the fact that it is a whole year younger than 360.

And also, I believe I also said that the Wii and PS3 appeal to different audiences, and the factors that are considered are based on personal preferance.

Originally Posted by MissMisa

I think all those things are subject to opinion really. I guess it depends what your priorities are. Fancy graphics, extra features and so on, the PS3 wins that. It is TECHNICALLY superior. This is not something I really care about. And, of course PS3 is going to be technically superior. If Wii cost that ridiculous amount of money then it probably would too.

The price, the innovation, the orginal and quirky nature and the balls to try something new, always goes to Nintendo.

I really don't care about the graphics on a game. I care about how good the game is to play, I believe that is the point in games. It's the same as films, they can have awesome CGI but if they are shit to watch then no-one cares.

The Wii has games which I prefer.

The Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess, Mario Kart Wii, Trauma Center, Smash Bros - these are all my types of games.

I also think the Wii appeals to more audiences. As a female gamer Nintendo caters for me way better than any other. I hate first person shooters which are the main games on the Xbox.

I've said this twice already, and that is pretty much agreeing with what you said about audiences.

[Tyrien]

Originally Posted by MissMisa

It's of no threat? They are all games consoles competing with each other. Wii has gone for a wider audience, therefore gaining more sales. I agree we should take into account the release dates and so on. Though I agree they are not directly competing, as they are aiming at different audiences. Whereas Xbox 360 and PS3 are going for the similar type of audience.

I find it kind of funny that you say you're so up to date with gaming but I keep seeing you make poor judgements and claims about the market. If you really did know anything about the fallacy that is the console war then you'd realize that the Wii is doing something else, and the 360 and PS3 are on their own in a headlock.

Originally Posted by MissMisa

Here is a good place for all the charts if you want to compare different factors yourself VGChartz.com |

Again, I come back to a the point of you claiming to be into gaming knowledge, but really seeming far off pace. VGCharts is a horrible citation for sales figures. The majority of them are nothing more than estimates but no real had fact. In fact several community sites that follow gaming shame members for trying to use VGChartz as a source for their arguments.

Originally Posted by MissMisa

I brought sales figures up in the first place because somebody else mentioned them, and I thought it was irrelevant to just mention Europe when there is the rest of the world to think about.

That's true. The Wii is winning all over. I'm confused why the 360 was brought into this too when it's not even in the OP. Oh well though.

As I mentioned though if you want to say what system is better then sales figures aren't an indication. Especially when you're an actual gamer.

[quote=MissMisa;491251]
And also, I believe I also said that the Wii and PS3 appeal to different audiences, and the factors that are considered are based on personal preferance.
[quote]
That's exactly right. It is personal preference and there's no way to truely say what is better. Again, both consoles are doing completely different things. Having one let's you do something the other will not.

When it comes down to it actually. The reasons someone would pick one over the other are reasons you wouldn't pick the other. 360/PS3 <-> Wii are virtually two halves of a whole.

[MissMisa]

Originally Posted by Tyrien

I find it kind of funny that you say you're so up to date with gaming but I keep seeing you make poor judgements and claims about the market. If you really did know anything about the fallacy that is the console war then you'd realize that the Wii is doing something else, and the 360 and PS3 are on their own in a headlock.

Again, I come back to a the point of you claiming to be into gaming knowledge, but really seeming far off pace. VGCharts is a horrible citation for sales figures. The majority of them are nothing more than estimates but no real had fact. In fact several community sites that follow gaming shame members for trying to use VGChartz as a source for their arguments.





That's true. The Wii is winning all over. I'm confused why the 360 was brought into this too when it's not even in the OP. Oh well though.

As I mentioned though if you want to say what system is better then sales figures aren't an indication. Especially when you're an actual gamer.

That's exactly right. It is personal preference and there's no way to truely say what is better. Again, both consoles are doing completely different things. Having one let's you do something the other will not.

When it comes down to it actually. The reasons someone would pick one over the other are reasons you wouldn't pick the other. 360/PS3 <-> Wii are virtually two halves of a whole.

I think I'm just going to repeat myself all over again, so I won't. I have recognised what you said, and I have already said many many times before you even said it, that gaming is based on the personal preferance and the Wii and PS3 are entirely different consoles. I won't bother quoting myself again as what I said previously will be just the same as what I say now.

[noodle]

Originally Posted by XjapanFOREVER

if we were to do a poll.

If all three new consoles were the same price, which one would you buy, and why.

I would bet anything that the PS3 would come out ahead

The only reason a PS3 would win in your situation is due to PS1 and PS2... You will rarely find someone that likes ps3 and it's games unless they were already a fan of it's predecessors.

[MissMisa]

Originally Posted by noodle

The only reason a PS3 would win in your situation is due to PS1 and PS2... You will rarely find someone that likes ps3 and it's games unless they were already a fan of it's predecessors.

I think you may be right about this one. But I wonder since PS2 was the best selling console out of them all, why isn't PS3 doing that well? I wonder what the average age of a gamers internationally is, and what age range the majority of the population are, then we might be able to see if the price effects it. Kids usually have a lot less money to spend on these things. According to the BBC the average game age is 28, so they should be able to afford a PS3 if they want it.