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09-28-2007, 11:04 PM

Let me re-count some personal experience that may seem irrelevant, but it kinda makes sense in my head

Back when I was like 8 years old i'd see kids get into fights with each other.
They'd grab each other in an arm lock and just pull each other and that is as far as it would go. As I grew older, these kids started to be influenced by Hollywood and other such mediums. These simple scuffles started to turn into serious stuff. People would get punched in the face and kicked in the balls. One kid once used my cricket bat to hit a guy in the head, cos said guy called his mother a tennis ball. (lol)
I think media has a lot of influence on kids and computer games may be no exception. It certainly de-sensitizes kids in my opinion, since i'm also very de-sensitized by it as are people around me.
Some people are still effected by blood and gore pretty badly in movies but those same people aren't effected at all by anything similar in games. Like my friend doesn't want to watch Samurai X with me cos he's squeamish about the blood but he then goes and plays Dawn of War which has some pretty gruesome killing scenes. He has been playing games a lot so its understandable that in his head he may just accept the bloodshed in a game.
I dunno how it works psychologically but i'm sure games play their part in influencing kids as does other media.
Whether they act upon this and bring out this violence is totally down to their nature.


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09-28-2007, 11:11 PM

Yes, if the question is if it desensitzes, then I think your experience is a pretty good example of reality.
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09-29-2007, 12:54 AM

it depends on how stupid the person is. they kno a game character don't hav anyone that care about them but a real person do. did u know u can go to court and say "the game made me do it" and get away wit it. BASA!



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09-29-2007, 01:53 AM

No, video games have no influence on a persons actions. Kids know its not real if it was then anyone could just go out get in fights and come back with no bruises once so ever and with money! makes me wish games were real. If a kid is influenced by something of that sort then I would look at the parents. In games you have no pain, no emotional ties. If a kid does not know what pain is such as being hit with the oponents intension to kill then they will grow up spoiled. Wanting everything they can't have and doing anything to get it. Kids are very influential and you need to have patiance with them, you have to use common sense (Think!). When you let your child play such violent games you have to explain its not real, you can't brush it off and expect everything to be well.When a child is out of line with a mother and father then you have to teach them a lesson not just by saying "No" you have to explain why its wrong. If you don't then you get those rotten kids on that Tv show NANNY 911, you have to hit a kid every once in awhile if they do something bad. You can't let it go and say "Oh he will learn his lesson in prison someday"


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09-29-2007, 09:09 AM

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"Oh he will learn his lesson in prison someday"
that made me laugh! lol, it seems to me like there are a lot of parents out there who actually do think that way, especially I mean, if you look at how they raise their kids! O_o


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09-29-2007, 11:17 AM

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alright then... what about those who already have unconscious tendencies to act aggressively?
they might be the typical next door neighbour, or classmate... dont u think these games might trigger simethin that leads to acting out these tendencies?
you've really just answered this question yourself. these people already have the violent tendency in them. so again it wasn't caused by playing violent video games, merely released i suppose.

to me, if watching/playing a violent video game is going to cause someone to go and kill/hurt another, they must have already been fucked in the head.

but heres what i want to know, how are these kids getting these violent games, where are the parents? when the parent discovers their child is playing a game that isn't for their age why are they simply not taking them away and complaining to whichever shop sold them the game. or in most cases stop fucking buying these games for your kids if they aren't old enough to play them.

don't get me wrong i agree with the people here who say kids can tell that it is just a game and won't go out and act like a dumb shit, hell i used to play/watch voilent games when i was underage. and i am not a violent person.

but these days theres just too many idiots trying to get games i like banned because they bought/found their kid playing this game and didn't like it.

bit like the gran in america who bought her underage son one of the gta games and then tried to sue rockstar!!
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but these days theres just too many idiots trying to get games i like banned because they bought/found their kid playing this game and didn't like it.

bit like the gran in america who bought her underage son one of the gta games and then tried to sue rockstar!!
I haven't heard about that situation, but if a parent or whoever raises the kid tries to sue a company after giving the game, they put the blame on the company and not on themselves and even worse the children. So they don't see the children doing something wrong and do not try to raise them better or just talk to them. Which makes the situation even worse in my opinion.


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09-29-2007, 02:31 PM

Did you hear about that kid in the US who shot his parents to death cause he'd just seen Terminator and thought the bullets wouldn't hurt them since they didn't seem to have any effect on the guys from the movie? o.O


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09-29-2007, 03:27 PM

I'm a rabid gamer, I particularly enjoy games like True Crime, and Mercenaries. I have been playing games like this for quite some time.(I miss Conkers Bad Fur Day..)

However, I am as non-violent as they come. I have been in three fist-fights in my life, and all three were not started by me. Hell, the last one I didnt even participate in, I just waited until a teacher came along to break it up.(because my Father tells me I shouldnt hit back.... I get in some serious shit if I do, and back then, having him yell at me was thousands of times worse than anything anyone could do to me physically.) I have never had thoughts of killing anyone, no impulses to grab a knife, nothing the law of Jack Thompson says I should be having. I can barely even stand watching a fight in real life(Yeah, call me weak, but thats just me.)

Violence has nothing to do with video games, it has everything to do with A. being psycho or B. Bad parenting.

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