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Hi there, - 08-07-2008, 05:44 PM

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Unfortunately, it can't really be used like that. I apologize; I didn't really explain it very well.
Thank you for all the examples!
and sorry, I was the one didn't explain it very well.
I DID undersand what you said,
and I was just wondering (and half joking!)
I asked you if I could say
"Oh, s-word!", I though it could be funny, but guess not.

I used to "make" new words or expressions with my Aussie friends when we were having a party.

This is their favourite, you might like it too.



Once one of my friends said " Oh, Luke is blouse" (Luke was acting like a girl).
And I asked him if "Luke is skirt" was also good too.
My friends liked the idea, and then we remembered that we used to talk about a particular kind of bikes sold in Japan.

Well...
We call that bike "ままちゃり (Mama Chari)" as a slang.
MAMA means mothers (as you know),
CHARI is pronunced more like "Cha Lee" (I know how to read hiragana, but this is for some readers who don't know )

CHARI is shorten for "CHARINKO" which is still a slang for bikes.

学校には何で通ってるの?バス?
"How do you get to school? by bus?"

んんん ちゃりんこだよ。
or
ちゃりだよ。
"No, by CHARINKO."
or
"No, by CHARI"

This is one of the examplese how to use this word.
(but maybe it's only used in my area Yokohama, so I am not sure
if Osaka people use this word. Sorry!)


That bike is designed for ladies so very easy to ride, and usually have a big basket in front, so that mama(s) can put a lot of their shoppings in it, and its colours are usually pink,purple or light blue which are the colours usually liked by many girls (mothers).

So...

When any of the boys did something like a girl, or said something like a girl,
we started replying "You are very Mama-Chari".


So

"Oh, S-word" was just one of my silly ideas, sorry!




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If we were out at dinner and it seemed like she had been having a bad time up until the point she insisted on paying half, I might get the feeling she didn't like me. However, if it seemed like she was having a good time and insisted on paying half, I wouldn't think she didn't like me.

Sorry for kind of a complex answer.
わかりますよ。なるほどね。


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「を」と「に」の使い方を覚えられるまで、ぺらぺらじ ゃないと思います。 

そっか~。

「ぺらぺら」というのは 人によって(もしくは状況に よって)
捉え方がちがいますね。

でも、私が思うに、
StripMahjongさんとは、日本語だけで十分話ができると思い ます。
なので、私は 本心から ぺらぺら だと思ったんです よ!

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あれ? 天才? 僕ですか?

いや・・・そうじゃありません。 天才だったら、もう 大学をそつぎょうして、もう日本語でぺらぺらになって 、もう日本で英語を教えます。
目標が高いんですね。StripMahjongさんは。
とても素晴らしいことだと思います。


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でも、優しい言葉を言ってくれて、ありがとうございま す。 本当の天才はまゆみ先生だと思います! 先生だ から、頭がすごくいいですね。
繰り返しになりますが、私は本当にそう思ったんだよ~ !
(わざと優しい言葉を言おうとしたわけじゃないですよ !)

私?絶対に天才ではありませんね・・・。残念ながらhah aha。
頭は使わないと どんどんいろいろなことを忘れていき ます。
なのでず~っと勉強を続けています。
天才だったら楽なんだけどね~。



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ところで、まゆみ先生の名前は漢字でどうやって書きま すか? 僕のPCはいつも「まゆみ」を「真由美」になり� ��す。 それは正しいですか?
Yes, your PC must know me. It's my name!
If you ask your Chinese friends, they might find my name in Kanji is very familier to them. I heard that 真由美 was the first Japanese actress's name became famouse in China (very looooong time ago so I don't know whom they were talking about though)
and some more information about Mayumis
I have met a few Mayumi(s) before and their names are spelled like
真弓 麻由美 and also in Hiragana or katakana.
"Mayumi" is not very popular name anymore, so there are not many kids have this name.

More Japanese parents give their babies "not-Japanesy-sound names" these days and they don't choose "typical Japanese names" anymore.

Mayumi is one of the typical Japanese girls(oh should I say female?) names.


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If you still need help with this, let me know and I will PM you my email.
Thanks!


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I will gladly help you with your English although I think I am younger then you, But if you need help just PM me, and I will help you Mayumi^^
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Thank you for all the examples!
and sorry, I was the one didn't explain it very well.
I DID undersand what you said,
and I was just wondering (and half joking!)
I asked you if I could say
"Oh, s-word!", I though it could be funny, but guess not.
あ。

うわ、ちょっと恥ずかしい・・・ まじめに聞いたと思 っていました。 ちょっと馬鹿な間違いですね。 すみ ません! 

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Well...
We call that bike "ままちゃり (Mama Chari)" as a slang.
MAMA means mothers (as you know),
CHARI is pronunced more like "Cha Lee" (I know how to read hiragana, but this is for some readers who don't know )

That bike is designed for ladies so very easy to ride, and usually have a big basket in front, so that mama(s) can put a lot of their shoppings in it, and its colours are usually pink,purple or light blue which are the colours usually liked by many girls (mothers).
そうですか? 「ままちゃり」を聞いたことがありまし たけれど、今まで意味が分かりませんでした。 勉強に なりました!

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So...

When any of the boys did something like a girl, or said something like a girl,
we started replying "You are very Mama-Chari".

So

"Oh, S-word" was just one of my silly ideas, sorry!
いや、僕の間違いでした。

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でも、私が思うに、
StripMahjongさんとは、日本語だけで十分話ができると思い ます。
なので、私は 本心から ぺらぺら だと思ったんです よ!
んんん・・・ でも、今フォーラムだけで日本語で話せ ます。 僕の返事を書く前に、知らない文法と単語を調 べられます。 だから、僕の日本語はまだまだです。

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目標が高いんですね。StripMahjongさんは。
とても素晴らしいことだと思います。
ありがとうございます。   頑張っています。

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繰り返しになりますが、私は本当にそう思ったんだよ~ !
(わざと優しい言葉を言おうとしたわけじゃないですよ !)
あれ? えっと・・・ 「優しい言葉を言ってくれて、 ありがとうございます」と言ったら、僕は真由美先生が うそをついていると思うって感じですか? そうじゃあ りませんでした。 本当にありがとうございます!

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Yes, your PC must know me. It's my name!
If you ask your Chinese friends, they might find my name in Kanji is very familier to them. I heard that 真由美 was the first Japanese actress's name became famouse in China (very looooong time ago so I don't know whom they were talking about though)
and some more information about Mayumis
I have met a few Mayumi(s) before and their names are spelled like
真弓 麻由美 and also in Hiragana or katakana.
"Mayumi" is not very popular name anymore, so there are not many kids have this name.
I have a few Chinese co-workers at my job. I'll show them your name in kanji and see if they remember the actress.

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More Japanese parents give their babies "not-Japanesy-sound names" these days and they don't choose "typical Japanese names" anymore.

Mayumi is one of the typical Japanese girls(oh should I say female?) names.
"Female" would sound a bit better in that sentence.

What are some examples of the non-Japanese names Japanese parents are giving their children nowadays? Are western names popular?
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I will gladly help you with your English although I think I am younger then you, But if you need help just PM me, and I will help you Mayumi^^
Thank you !
Please join us here, so we can all enjoy talking and learning something new about the languages


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I will help a bit. Here's a basic summary of the differences in grammar and structure:

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Japanese Has:
| Past | - | Present |

English Has:
| Past | - | Present | - | Future |

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Japanese Has:
Kore(これ)" means "this."
"Sore(それ)" means "that."
"Are(あれ)" means "that over there."

Japanese has three separate indicators.

English Has:
"this" and "that."

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Japanese Is:
Subject-Object-Verb Language

English Is:
Subject-Verb-Object Language

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Subject:
The initiation of a sentence/speech regarding its topic.

A subject defines topic of the sentence/speech.

Verb:
Verb is a word (part of speech/sentence) that usually denotes an action (bring, read), an occurrence (decompose, glitter), or a state of being (exist, stand).

A Verb defines the meaning of the sentence/speech

Object:
It denotes somebody or something involved in the subject's "performance/action" of the Verb. An Object needs to relate back to the Subject and Verb and therefore define the course of the sentence.

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I hope it helps.

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Hi there,

I made a schedule for a Kids English Class.

Usually my workmate (from USA) helps me and corrects it, but
he is on his vacation!

Can anyone help me with it?

I would like to send it (file) to you by reguler email.

If you have some Japanese essay or whatever, I would be happy to check and correct it for you too!
If you want English lessons for the purpose of teaching your class; it is always good to create an interactive way of learning, it is more stimulating.

A good example would be to disallow your class to use anything but Romanji and to promote role playing and speaking in class.
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hey I am back! - 08-18-2008, 04:27 PM

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あ。

うわ、ちょっと恥ずかしい・・・ まじめに聞いたと思 っていました。 ちょっと馬鹿な間違いですね。 すみ ません! 
(笑)

私の方こそ わかりにくくて すみませんでした。


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そうですか? 「ままちゃり」を聞いたことがありまし たけれど、今まで意味が分かりませんでした。 勉強に なりました!
それは よかったです。


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んんん・・・ でも、今フォーラムだけで日本語で話せ ます。 僕の返事を書く前に、知らない文法と単語を調 べられます。 だから、僕の日本語はまだまだです。
そっか・・・・。

文法や単語を調べないで書く事は 難しいですか?

今度、何も調べないで書いてみてはどうでしょう?


そのうち、ここのフォーラムのみんなで 直接話せるチ ャットをしましょうね。きっと勉強になると思います。




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あれ? えっと・・・ 「優しい言葉を言ってくれて、 ありがとうございます」と言ったら、僕は真由美先生が うそをついていると思うって感じですか? そうじゃあ りませんでした。 本当にありがとうございます!
そうですね・・・。
「優しい言葉を言ってくれて・・・」というと 本心じ ゃないかもしれない、と聞こえるかもしれません。
もし、相手が本心からそう言っていると感じて、それを 伝えたい時は
「嬉しい言葉を言ってくれて・・・」の等が良いかも・ ・・。

Wow, this is a very good question.
Japanese use a lot of expressions to be
(or to make it sound) "modest",
so it could make Japanese language very complicated sometimes!



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I have a few Chinese co-workers at my job. I'll show them your name in kanji and see if they remember the actress.
どうでしたか?
What did they say?

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"Female" would sound a bit better in that sentence.
I see. Thank you!

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What are some examples of the non-Japanese names Japanese parents are giving their children nowadays? Are western names popular?

Here are some examples,

Rina(Lina),Risa(Lisa),Kento(Kent),Reito(Rate),Rizu(Liz),
Kanon,Sara(Sarah)...

They also have their names in Kanji.
I guess their parents must LOVE to use unusual kanjis,
sometimes it's so hard to figure out how they are supposed to read,
so ふりがな is necessary for their names.
I have no idea if it's a good thing or not very good thing...


Some parents told me the reason why they didn't want any Japanesy name. The mom said cos they wanted people to think their son wasn't a Japanese. They don't like Japan.She feels even ashame of Japan.I don't know what made her and her husband (Japanese) think like that.
I know the only reason why they don't look down on me because I speak English better than they do. She could be very cold and unfriendly to other Japanese. There ARE people just like her.

I remember a Japanese guy who was working for a big company,
making a lot of money, used to come to the restaurant where I worked.

He was not very nice, could be rude when he talked to us(the restaurant staffs),but once he saw me talking with some customers from the USA, he changed!
He tried to get my name and number, and tried very hard to talk with me. He wanted a girlfriend who can speak English because he can show off!
He once asked me why I didn't put more make-up and wear something more girly like mini-skirt and high-heels and all.

I knew he didn't want to know me at all, but he wanted to make me look like what he wanted, so that he can show off to his friends.

I never get attracted by this type of boys, very "shallow".

I usually don't put any make-up on, cos I don't have to get any attention from boys (haha), so I know that my husband liked me just the way I am.



You know, many Japanese girls are very good at "making-up"?
Without their powder and lipstick and false eyelashes and all,
they could look like a totally different person.

This isn't a joke!

My friend (boy), used to date with a girl who never show him her "real face"(without putting make-up).

A few months later at a gym (swimming pool),
SHE found him, so she called his name loudly,
but HE didn't notice and almost walked away,
so SHE ran and came up to him and said
"hey, you didn't hear me?"
but HE didn't smile or anything, cos

HE COULDN'T RECOGNIZE HER FACE!

She suddenly realized that her face wasn't the "making-up" one,
so she said
"Sorry, it was a mistake, I don't know you and you don't know me, bye!"
and running away.


They broke up in a few months later.

He told me that
while the girl was calling his name he was trying to remember who she was,
but he couldn't think of anyone with " no eyebrow".
When she came up to him, he saw them closely and realized that there WERE eyebrow but they were totally shaved.
When he saw the girl very close, but still didn't know who she was.

It wasn't her shaved "eyebrow",
the reason he broke up with her.
He said he felt like she was "lying".

After the day he saw her real-face, he said
SHE changed.
She kept asking him
"Don't you love me anymore?" too many times.
She lost her confident and sounded+looked like a different person to him.


Recently, some young boys put on make-up,
did you know that?


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Don't use the term 'Shaved Eyebrows' the correct term is 'Plucked Eyebrows".

Your friend simply met the wrong person. Even if she presented herself without make up he should have had the decency to respect her for who she is. To me it does not sound like the girl is at fault. The male is simply a scrutiny.

This is a good lesson for the girl, hopefully she will find the right person and then teach her to love herself for who she is. Life's one big learning experience. Never say never!

Every race has rude people who like to show off. London (England), Japan and China really like the idea of status and hierarchy.

Just because someone shows off it does not mean they are bad people, they were simply raised that way. If you look down or detest them then you're just as bad.

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(Here are some examples,

Rina(Lina),Risa(Lisa),Kento(Kent),Reito(Rate),Rizu(Liz),
Kanon,Sara(Sarah)...

They also have their names in Kanji.
I guess their parents must LOVE to use unusual kanjis,
sometimes it's so hard to figure out how they are supposed to read,
so ふりがな is necessary for their names.
I have no idea if it's a good thing or not very good thing...
Maybe it's to lend an air of mystery to the person. If you can't quickly understand the name of the person, you would have to talk with them more, and as a result know the person as more than just a name.


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Some parents told me the reason why they didn't want any Japanesy name. The mom said cos they wanted people to think their son wasn't a Japanese. They don't like Japan.She feels even ashame of Japan.I don't know what made her and her husband (Japanese) think like that.
I know the only reason why they don't look down on me because I speak English better than they do. She could be very cold and unfriendly to other Japanese. There ARE people just like her.
This disturbs me greatly. Personal choice is one thing, but making decisions because they dislike their own country? Seems to be a wrong way to think...

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I remember a Japanese guy who was working for a big company,
making a lot of money, used to come to the restaurant where I worked.

He was not very nice, could be rude when he talked to us(the restaurant staffs),but once he saw me talking with some customers from the USA, he changed!
He tried to get my name and number, and tried very hard to talk with me. He wanted a girlfriend who can speak English because he can show off!
He once asked me why I didn't put more make-up and wear something more girly like mini-skirt and high-heels and all.
Should have told him, "You first."

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I knew he didn't want to know me at all, but he wanted to make me look like what he wanted, so that he can show off to his friends.

I never get attracted by this type of boys, very "shallow".
Good. People like that usually get exactly what they're looking for...much to their regret.

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I usually don't put any make-up on, cos I don't have to get any attention from boys (haha), so I know that my husband liked me just the way I am.
Excellent. I commend the sensibility of your husband.

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You know, many Japanese girls are very good at "making-up"?
Without their powder and lipstick and false eyelashes and all,
they could look like a totally different person.

This isn't a joke!

My friend (boy), used to date with a girl who never show him her "real face"(without putting make-up).

A few months later at a gym (swimming pool),
SHE found him, so she called his name loudly,
but HE didn't notice and almost walked away,
so SHE ran and came up to him and said
"hey, you didn't hear me?"
but HE didn't smile or anything, cos

HE COULDN'T RECOGNIZE HER FACE!

She suddenly realized that her face wasn't the "making-up" one,
so she said
"Sorry, it was a mistake, I don't know you and you don't know me, bye!"
and running away.


They broke up in a few months later.
This story just has me in disbelief. I suppose it was better to find out then rather than the morning after the wedding.

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He told me that
while the girl was calling his name he was trying to remember who she was,
but he couldn't think of anyone with " no eyebrow".
When she came up to him, he saw them closely and realized that there WERE eyebrow but they were totally shaved.
When he saw the girl very close, but still didn't know who she was.

It wasn't her shaved "eyebrow",
the reason he broke up with her.
He said he felt like she was "lying".
*nods* It's for the best, but to have the big moment in the relationship being so public...

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After the day he saw her real-face, he said
SHE changed.
She kept asking him
"Don't you love me anymore?" too many times.
She lost her confident and sounded+looked like a different person to him.
One can hope both people learned something from knowing each other, and work to make sure something like that doesn't happen again.

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Recently, some young boys put on make-up,
did you know that?
Now I do o_O


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Unfortunately for you, she is not here.

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This disturbs me greatly. Personal choice is one thing, but making decisions because they dislike their own country? Seems to be a wrong way to think...
It's sad, but I have met more than a few Japanese people who dislike Japan.
I don't think Japan is the best or perfect at all, but I don't dislike it the way they do.


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Should have told him, "You first."
Yes, I should have!

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Good. People like that usually get exactly what they're looking for...much to their regret.
Yes, I think so.


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One can hope both people learned something from knowing each other, and work to make sure something like that doesn't happen again.
Yes.
They were young (they were college students) anyway.


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Now I do o_O
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haha.

The other day some boys on TV said,
"What's wrong with it? Girls put make-up on to make their faces look better,
why can't boys?"


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