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Thank you Koir san, always

I see...

I often get confused with
to be and to get...

When you feel tired...
would you say

"I get tired"
"I got tired"
as well as
"I am tired"
?
I would say "I am tired", or the even shorter "I'm tired"

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"got" and "was" were both"past" form right?
but
"I got tired" and
"I was tired"
mean different?
Yes. They differ in the perspective and emphasis the speaker wishes to place on the concept of being tired.

"I got tired" would be used if the act of becoming tired was part of telling a story or relating a series of events. Effectively, it would change how the person reacted to events after becoming tired compared to reactions to the same event if he/she were not tired.

"I was tired" is used if the speaker wanted to place more emphasis or focus on the events after he/she became tired, with less focus on how he/she would act in the same events were he/she not tired.

Examples:

"I was waiting at the bus station for him to arrive. As the hours passed, I got tired and decided to sleep for a while."

"I was tired from waiting hours for him to arrive, so I decided to sleep for a while."



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and I also confused with
to be and to become

I want to be a teacher in the future
I want to become a teacher in the future
The difference between the two sentences, again, is in the emphasis and focus the speaker wants to communicate.

Sentence 1 concentrates more on being a teacher at some point in the future, with no thought as to the working and studying needed for that career.

Sentence 2 concentrates more on the process of becoming a teacher at some point in the future, not just being a teacher.

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sorry Koir san to ask you many questions...

What time is it in Canada now?
It's 0:50 pm here in Japan
*chuckles* 22:07 p.m. yesterday to your point of view


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thank you "Koir"san - 06-10-2009, 03:47 PM

いつもありがとう

I understand them much better now.

Thank you !


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more questions... - 06-10-2009, 04:19 PM

Hello again

I have more questions today...

1)かゆい

I am not sure how to use the adjective "itchy" properly.

A kid has got a red spot on her knee...
"Does it itchy?"(pointing at her knee)
"Does it feel itchy?"

"Do you feel itchy on your knee? "
"Does the red spot itchy you?"

"Are you itchy?"
"Are you itchy with your knee?"

I just wonder if "itchy" can be used grammartically the same way with the adjective"tired"...

I am tired
I am itchy

I got tired
I got itchy

I feel tired
I feel itchy

Are you tired?
Are you itchy?

I was tired
I was itchy

but itchy part can be anywhere..
If the many parts of your body are itchy,
Do you say
Are you itchy?
or
even only one spot (like a small red spot on your knee)
making you itchy...
Do you still say
"Are you itchy?"
would it better to say
"Are you itchy with your knee?
"Are you itchy on your knee?

.... I have no idea!
My dictionary hasn't got any good examples




2) せんたくもの

do you say "washing" or "laundry"?
before washing and after washing...
do you call them the same?
I mean do you still call them "washings" or "laundries"?

Do these make sense?

I have many washings to wash
I have many laundries to wash
I have to do my washing
I have to do my laundry

I did my washing this morning

I washed a lot of laundries with the washing machine.


3)ベランダ

How do you call "a balcony" in another word?


4)
What does that mean?
What does it mean?

what's the difference???


5)日本っぽい

Japanesey?
Japanish?
Japanese?

A friend of mine wanted to say
日本っぽい(和風)柄が好きです
in English, and she said
I like Japanese design

I didn't think it was perfect way to explain it.

I like typical Japanesey design
I like Japanese traditional design

mmm I don't know...



it has been really really long...

I hope you are not too tired by now...


Please feel free to leave your questions about Japanese too!
I would be happy to answer!


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Hello again

I have more questions today...

1)かゆい

I am not sure how to use the adjective "itchy" properly.

A kid has got a red spot on her knee...
"Does it itchy?"(pointing at her knee)
"Does it feel itchy?"

"Do you feel itchy on your knee? "
"Does the red spot itchy you?"

"Are you itchy?"
"Are you itchy with your knee?"
Given the context, "Does that itch?" would be the best way to ask the question. Both individuals understand the concept being discussed, with one of the individuals possessing the knowledge the other individual is seeking.

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I just wonder if "itchy" can be used grammatically the same way with the adjective"tired"...

I am tired
I am itchy
This case, both sentences make sense. They are both description of feelings in the present tense.

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I got tired
I got itchy
In many situations, both of these sentences would be correct as written. However, being itchy is a feeling expressed in present terms and not a temporary state that leads to another situation.

Essentially, if a person is tired, they sleep or rest. If a person is itchy, they will continue to be itchy until it is treated or stops without anything being done to cure it.

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I feel tired
I feel itchy
As above, these are both statements of feelings and therefore are correct as written.

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Are you tired?
Are you itchy?
These are questions asked about a person's feelings, and are correctly expressed as written.

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I was tired
I was itchy
These are expressions of past feelings, and are correct as written.

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but itchy part can be anywhere..
If the many parts of your body are itchy,
Do you say
Are you itchy?
or
even only one spot (like a small red spot on your knee)
making you itchy...
Do you still say
"Are you itchy?"
would it better to say
"Are you itchy with your knee?
"Are you itchy on your knee?

.... I have no idea!
My dictionary doesn't have any good examples
Generally speaking, if you feel itchy you don't have to be specific as being itchy is a rather intense feeling that catches most of a person's attention.



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2) せんたくもの

do you say "washing" or "laundry"?
before washing and after washing...
do you call them the same?
I mean do you still call them "washings" or "laundries"?
Washing is a verb expressing an action done to objects to clean them, for example dishes or clothes. An amount of clothing that has been washing (that is, had washing done to it) is referred to as "laundry". "Laundries", while being grammatically correct in its construction, is not a proper word in the English language.

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Do these make sense?

I have many washings to wash
I have many laundries to wash
I have to do my washing
I have to do my laundry
The last sentence (bolded) is the correct statement out of the four provided.

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I did my washing this morning
This sentence is correct, as the word "washing" is a gerund, or a verb ending in "ing" as used the same way as a noun.

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I washed a lot of laundry with the washing machine.
Correction in bold. "Laundry" is a collective noun used to described a group of mostly dissimiliar objects that have common characteristics (that is, clothing).


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3)ベランダ

How do you call "a balcony" in another word?
The two words that come to mind as alternate expressions are "deck" and "veranda", but I'm not sure those are correct.


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4)
What does that mean?
What does it mean?

what's the difference???
They differ in how the speaker and other nearby individuals perceive the concept or thing being asked about. If it is about an action or thing that is occurring at that moment, "that" is preferred as it is a demonstrative word. Otherwise, the less specific "it" is used.

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5)日本っぽい

Japanesey?
Japanish?
Japanese?

A friend of mine wanted to say
日本っぽい(和風)柄が好きです
in English, and she said
I like Japanese design

I didn't think it was perfect way to explain it.

I like typical Japanesey design
I like Japanese traditional design

mmm I don't know...
I believe most of this is easier understood by a person who knows both Japanese and English, so I'll just examine the English parts.

"Japanish" and "Japanesy" really aren't proper words, so "Japanese" is the correct term. As to whether it should be "traditional design", or simply "design" is up to the context of the conversation. I am thinking that most design in Japan is heavily influenced by traditional elements and styles, so "traditional design" may be the correct expression to use here.


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it has been really really long...

I hope you are not too tired by now...
No problem, Mayumi!


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Thank you Koir - 06-11-2009, 03:46 PM

Thank you very much for your great lecture!

I need my dictionary to understand them so I am going to print it out and study it!

I am so happy to have a special teacher Koir-sensei to help me here.

Thank you very very much


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Thank you very much for your great lecture!

I need my dictionary to understand them so I am going to print it out and study it!

I am so happy to have a special teacher Koir-sensei to help me here.

Thank you very very much
I am greatly honoured that my efforts, such as they are, have been found useful.


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How do you express your " ! " feelings? - 06-17-2009, 12:46 PM

Hello again

I just wonder what you would say when you are surprised(happy one or unhappy one)...
I mean to express your " ! " feelings.

such as...

Yeah! That's a great idea!
Wow! It's great!
Boy! It's hot!
Gee! It's hot!
Shit! I did it again! (I know this isn't polite)
Oops! I did it again!

Can you tell me how you say your " ! " ?


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Hello again

I just wonder what you would say when you are surprised(happy one or unhappy one)...
I mean to express your " ! " feelings.

such as...

Yeah! That's a great idea!
Wow! It's great!
Boy! It's hot!
Gee! It's hot!
Shit! I did it again! (I know this isn't polite)
Well yes, it's impolite. Still got a chuckle out of me.

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Oops! I did it again!
Britney Spears has pretty much ruined anyone saying this particular expression...

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Can you tell me how you say your " ! " ?
Right at the moment, I usually say "What the...?" and try to figure out what happened. Expressions of exclamation vary greatly depending on context, so providing some would be more helpful.


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Hello again:) - 06-17-2009, 01:59 PM

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Well yes, it's impolite. Still got a chuckle out of me.
When I said "shit" (at that time, I didn't know that word was bad, cos I heard it everywhere when I was in Australia!),
my friends (7 years old girl) said
"Don't say that word, Mayumi! Say Suger",
so since then I have been trying not to use "shit", but
I actually use it....
hahaha
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Britney Spears has pretty much ruined anyone saying this particular expression...
[QUOTE/]

hahaha you are right!


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Right at the moment, I usually say "What the...?" and try to figure out what happened. Expressions of exclamation vary greatly depending on context, so providing some would be more helpful.
How about when it's very very hot, when you open the door to go outside,
Do you say

Gee it's hot! ?
Boy it's hot! ?
or other way?

By the way

Why "BOY"?
Why not "Girl"?


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When I said "shit" (at that time, I didn't know that word was bad, cos I heard it everywhere when I was in Australia!),
my friends (7 years old girl) said
"Don't say that word, Mayumi! Say Sugar",
so since then I have been trying not to use "shit", but
I actually use it....
hahaha
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Britney Spears has pretty much ruined anyone saying this particular expression...
hahaha you are right!




How about when it's very very hot, when you open the door to go outside,
Do you say

Gee it's hot! ?
Boy it's hot! ?
or other way?
There have been some summer days when just opening the door is like stepping into a furnace. So I usually say "It's like a furnace out here!"

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By the way

Why "BOY"?
Why not "Girl"?
For the most basic of reasons: it's shorter to say, and more expressive in mouth movements.


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