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09-03-2008, 08:48 PM

You can say it's a bad idea, a waist of time or anything, you can even keep talking about how hard it is to live in japan but what you say will not change the fact that foreginer's will go to japan with a dream to live their and adapt you may say the samething over and over that they need to graduate from college if they want to live their, but they dont have to it's possible to do anything you set your mind to thought plans might not go as expected but that's the reason why this is called life people may fall if they do the opposite of what you say but it's a lesson learned time is the greatest teacher and expereiance is the greates substitute teacher if they wan't to try and live in japan let them go ahead before all you need to get in japan or any distant country was a boat now you need passports green card's etc. How will any body live their life to the fullest if they don't do anything of course I want to live in Japan that's why im going for it rember this it's better to alway's say I did instead of I should have.

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You can say it's a bad idea, a waist of time or anything, you can even keep talking about how hard it is to live in japan but what you say will not change the fact that foreginer's will go to japan with a dream to live their and adapt you may say the samething over and over that they need to graduate from college if they want to live their, but they dont have to it's possible to do anything you set your mind to thought plans might not go as expected but that's the reason why this is called life people may fall if they do the opposite of what you say but it's a lesson learned time is the greatest teacher and expereiance is the greates substitute teacher if they wan't to try and live in japan let them go ahead before all you need to get in japan or any distant country was a boat now you need passports green card's etc. How will any body live their life to the fullest if they don't do anything of course I want to live in Japan that's why im going for it rember this it's better to alway's say I did instead of I should have.
Wow, having to read this hurt my eyes. By the way, its "There" not "Their". To correct you, even if I set my mind to grow wings on my back, that will not happen.

I think you deeply misunderstood the objective of this thread. We are not trying to discourage people, in fact, we are trying to encourage them, encourage them to DO IT RIGHT. "To get the job done right, you need the proper tool", thats the message that we are trying to convey, the college degree is "THE TOOL" in this case.

Think about this, you can either get a degree, and strengthen your chances of getting there "SOONER" so you can start making a living and live life.

Or, forget about a degree, try all kind of things, keep trying, keep waiting. Your choice

Being encouraging is one thing, but promoting a false personal belief is another. Many who made a comment here have first hand experience concerning this issue. Some in particular, know the system well enough to rewrite the residency rule, and they are voicing out the need of a degree, I would like to belief that they are probably more accurate

Of course, you may just be writing this in hope to find supporters who will tell you that you don't need a dgree, since thats what you are aiming for....
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09-04-2008, 10:08 PM

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You can say it's a bad idea, a waist of time or anything, you can even keep talking about how hard it is to live in japan but what you say will not change the fact that foreginer's will go to japan with a dream to live their and adapt you may say the samething over and over that they need to graduate from college if they want to live their, but they dont have to it's possible to do anything you set your mind to thought plans might not go as expected but that's the reason why this is called life people may fall if they do the opposite of what you say but it's a lesson learned time is the greatest teacher and expereiance is the greates substitute teacher if they wan't to try and live in japan let them go ahead before all you need to get in japan or any distant country was a boat now you need passports green card's etc. How will any body live their life to the fullest if they don't do anything of course I want to live in Japan that's why im going for it rember this it's better to alway's say I did instead of I should have.
Never was the intention to squash anyone's dreams. This thread is to help make those dreams come true. The idea is to prepare people and get their dreams on the road.

Time and experience are both great teachers for life. But life doesn't give out work visas, the Japanese government does.
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09-11-2008, 04:11 PM

Reporting in on a good post, there have been some lulz.

Would people at least come to Japan before saying they want to give up their US citizenship/fight for the emporer/etc


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10-04-2008, 12:56 PM

now i'm indonesia... i want live and school in japan ... T_T
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10-04-2008, 10:18 PM

sry if this question is mentioned befor but i don´t have the time to read the whole thread
Should I also study first in germany with all the fincancial support I get (it´s a credit I don´t have to pay back fully^^) and move to japan afterwards, or should I move befor it to japan to study there? (i don´t know what college in the usa would be in germany so xD) Cause it´s somehow easier to find friends in school I think and it´s not really funny to sit in japan somehow alone^^


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agreed - 10-04-2008, 10:58 PM

I completely agree 110%! Japan is an expensive place to live, and working at a fast food restaurant just wont cut it.


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10-14-2008, 01:52 AM

I will probably say repeated phrases! Just like (wolf) said, I admit too my dream of going to Japan started with mere anime and video games. I even made myself a loser because of that! I gave up on college and stayed at home for one whole year out of frustration. Then having plenty of time to think, I realized I was just making my dreams harder to achieve. Forcing myself, I went back on the path of education once again. To say the truth, I'm proud of myself. The same loser today is a 2nd year student (21yrs) in the IT field along with other certifications. But I gave up on that dream I had during younger days for some personal reasons. Though I won't deny fact I would have been happy if my dream came true...Well, never mind maybe next lifetime! I am not saying you guys should do the same thing. I believe you should listen to MMM's advice...Good luck guys...I could not be there...Hope you guys can...
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10-14-2008, 02:03 AM

Well I am gradutioned high school of May 2008 It's my choice not need go to college it's my life. I will work and save money try my best work hard time wait move to Japan and hope stay with my friend (in Japan) for my dog and I like as roommate/friend like as family..I'll study more Japanese language I still need for JSL (Japanese Sign Languages) and try my best for them I think i need wait for few years then moving in Japan.


My first language is sign language 'cause I am born deaf and second is English it's hard understand for me sometimes my memory not good for I try writes right story/grammer of english okay? And read them too. So Deal with it.
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10-14-2008, 03:03 AM

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I am going to put it out there straight. There are millions of people that want to go to Japan and live there. (Work seems to be a distraction.)

People that aren't college graduates are not attractive candidates for work in Japan (or any foreign country, for that mater).

If you cannot complete the equivilent of a four-year degree program, then why would an employer in Japan hire you?

People that don't go to college don't get to be international businessmen.

Fair or not, that's how it is.
The fact that society takes more importance in a piece of paper rather than actual work skills irritates me.

Eventually there's gonna have to be a reform on that. Paper can say only so much, and sometimes the diploma just might be faked. Phony. So what if you came upon the decision of hiring a guy with a grand college diploma.

More on that, he has very little skill in the medical field. Then, you have a guy who's really studied up on his med training and all that, but hasn't gone to college.

Based on what you've said, the guy with the diploma will be hired, and the guy with actual skill will be rejected. That's risking people's lives.

All of this diploma and college crap is overrated. WAY overrated. I think it's more important to actually test people on what they can do, not just give them the job based on what a diploma says.

I'm not flaming. Just venting on how everyone emphasizes on college and diplomas too much instead of actually going for people with skills. I'm not saying that all people with diplomas are faking it, having no skills: some do, but not all, I know.


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