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07-05-2008, 06:40 AM

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There are plenty of mexicans in Japan, mostly round the U.S. Millitary bases. 100s of Resturaunts in Okinawa. Even Okinawa has adopetd there own mexican dish. They call it Taco Rice
:P That makes me wish my mom had gone overseas with my dad...Taco RIce sounds good. And I would know how to speak Japanese...oh well.
And I'm not mexican but I know some of the language but I don't live in Japan...
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07-05-2008, 11:49 AM

Some heated argument about who's racist and what's racist.

Let's just say that there won't be that many Mexicans in Japan so let's just relax.

Spanish speakers from different countries have different accents so just let it be if you run into them somewhere.

Also, I do not get pissed but get somewhat disappointed when I run into other Japanese tourists so maybe that's what Amnell meant to say as well.

Americans are so sensitive about rasism...

I wish everywhere was like Brazil.
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07-05-2008, 04:14 PM

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MMM, I think you're just being as pedantic as people like Ronin4hire. If what Amnel said is considered to be racist, then I think the original meaning of the word has been lost. I find it amazing that every slight comment about anything is considered racist. Heck, if things carry on like this, in a couple of years, saying something like a black person is black will be considerd racist and any study of culture will be considered racist...

What Amnell said is FINE. And I agree with him. If I go to Japan, I hope I don't hear too much English or any of the languages I speak. No doubt there will be foreigners, but thats not the point. It's like the people that go on foreign exchange programs to hang around people from their country... What's the point? Stay home if you're not going abroad to experience new cultures and languages...
I'm not the one who said "I don't mean to sound racist, but..." Amnell did. My point still stands. People that say "I don't mean to sound racist, but..." usually end up saying something racist. I am not saying Amnell is burning crosses in peoples backyard...my point was only what I just stated and I didn't intend that side observation to become a big deal. You have now called me pedantic for the 3rd or 4th time. Is that a record?

Amnell isn't talking about English or any of the languages he speaks. He didn't say he didn't want to hear foreingn tongues in Japan, he specifically said "Spanish". If you said "I want to go to Japan, but I sure hope I don't hear any Korean" I would say say the same comment. Don't make excuses for what he said.
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07-05-2008, 04:23 PM

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He didn't make any remarks about a certain race being inferior or superior. Only saying one doesn't like/want to hear a certain language _IS NOT RACIST_. Also it's understandable (if perhaps not possible) that, if you travel across to the other side of the world, you want it to be as different as possible from home. I'm the same way.

I know and understood what he wrote in his first post, and apparently so did you. So I don't understand why it is necessary to try and make someone out to be a racist that apparently is not (based on what we've seen him write, anyways).



The only thing he said about mexicans before you mentioned them, was that he asked about the popularity of mexican food.

Anyways what I wanted to point out was that even if saying the things he did would make him naive, elitist, asshole, whatever (not saying it does) - it still wouldn't make him _racist_.

I do, however, think it's a totally pointless thing to bother with and I can kind of understand you also MMM, so don't think I'm just out to get you or anything!

Sorry for the rant.
I did not nor would not call Amnell a racist. Let's all take a deep breath and settle down.

I did understand what he meant to say, but was pointing out that what we mean to say and what comes out are sometimes different.

If I was Mexican and read what he said, I wouldn't be amused, would you?
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07-05-2008, 04:26 PM

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Some heated argument about who's racist and what's racist.

Let's just say that there won't be that many Mexicans in Japan so let's just relax.

Spanish speakers from different countries have different accents so just let it be if you run into them somewhere.

Also, I do not get pissed but get somewhat disappointed when I run into other Japanese tourists so maybe that's what Amnell meant to say as well.

Americans are so sensitive about rasism...

I wish everywhere was like Brazil.

(Amnell isn't a Spanish speaker)
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07-05-2008, 04:39 PM

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I'm not the one who said "I don't mean to sound racist, but..." Amnell did. My point still stands. People that say "I don't mean to sound racist, but..." usually end up saying something racist. I am not saying Amnell is burning crosses in peoples backyard...my point was only what I just stated and I didn't intend that side observation to become a big deal. You have now called me pedantic for the 3rd or 4th time. Is that a record?

Amnell isn't talking about English or any of the languages he speaks. He didn't say he didn't want to hear foreingn tongues in Japan, he specifically said "Spanish". If you said "I want to go to Japan, but I sure hope I don't hear any Korean" I would say say the same comment. Don't make excuses for what he said.
Is that so? And when did I call you pedantic before this? Even if I did, is that really such a bad thing? It seems to be in your nature to be draconian, and have things said or done correctly, but sometimes, it's a bit too far. It seems that this is a common trait among the older members on this forum as shown in several threads so far. e.g. the one where the kid asked about what was popular amoungst asians.

And, one other thing, this thread is about mexicans. Spanish is spoken in Mexico, hence the comment about spanish speakers.
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07-05-2008, 04:39 PM

Creo que usted encontrará más de los mexicanos en Japón. Supongo que mi pregunta para todos los latinoamericanos es ¿cómo terminan allí, por qué, y qué hacer que os guste? Sé que tengo familiares en Australia (soy salvatrucha-americana) y se han adaptado bien allí. Y como para ese comentario acerca de no querer escuchar una lengua determinada en el extranjero ... bueno, lamentablemente, se encuentra la ignorancia de todo el mundo.


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07-05-2008, 04:59 PM

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Is that so? And when did I call you pedantic before this? Even if I did, is that really such a bad thing? It seems to be in your nature to be draconian, and have things said or done correctly, but sometimes, it's a bit too far. It seems that this is a common trait among the older members on this forum as shown in several threads so far. e.g. the one where the kid asked about what was popular amoungst asians.

And, one other thing, this thread is about mexicans. Spanish is spoken in Mexico, hence the comment about spanish speakers.
Yes, it is so.

You called me pedantic several times on other threads...it doesn't really matter.

If wanting things to be said or done correctly makes me draconian, then I am draconian. If that is my worst trait, then I will wear it with a badge of honor.

The question about what was popular in Asia is just as stupid as it sounds. I won't apologize for that one either.

Spanish is spoken in Mexico and all over the world. Guess what, go to Japan and you are going to see Chinese, Koreans, Indians, Thai, Americans and people from all over the world. Japan isn't a little secret anymore.

I didn't intend for Anmell's little comment and my little response to become an international incident. I was mostly commenting on the nature of the comment, but I still beleive what I said, and if I was a Spanish speaker I would be bothered by it.
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07-05-2008, 04:59 PM

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Creo que usted encontrará más de los mexicanos en Japón. Supongo que mi pregunta para todos los latinoamericanos es ¿cómo terminan allí, por qué, y qué hacer que os guste? Sé que tengo familiares en Australia (soy salvatrucha-americana) y se han adaptado bien allí. Y como para ese comentario acerca de no querer escuchar una lengua determinada en el extranjero ... bueno, lamentablemente, se encuentra la ignorancia de todo el mundo.
Convengo con usted.
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07-05-2008, 05:19 PM

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Not to sound racist or anything, but I'd probably get really irritated if I went all the way to Japan and heard Spanish...

I would think, "As if I don't hear that often enough at home, when I go on vacation to get away from everything that is 'home', I have to hear it here, too! >_< "

Out of curiosity, how popular is Mexican food in Japan? Is it near as prolific as it is hear in California? Do they Japan-ify the Mexican food like McDonald's has done?
Regardless if you're racist or not with a comment like that you look like a some sort of stuck up white prick who sits back and blames mexicans for every problem in the states.

Perhaps choose better wording next time or add in a little extra.
You could've mentioned the same thing about English in this post and saved yourself the drama.
And never mention, " I don't mean to be.." because that ticks off people more.
You seem like you're just covering your ass over a rude comment.
That from what I read, you didn't mean to be rude in the first place.



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