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05-27-2007, 04:36 AM

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Well, they pay better than any ALT position that I know of and there's a week orientation in Tokyo upon arriving in Japan so you could probably explore some of the city in the meantime. Also, your rent is pretty cheap.
Hmm, I'm still wondering what are the households like, are they somewhat like a dorm, or do they live in the same building, or is it entirely up to us on what type of setting we live in? Do you know a particular website other than the official JET Programme website that explains the advantages and disadvantges of being a JET since I personally don't know anyone in particular that's in the program.
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05-27-2007, 05:39 AM

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Hmm, I'm still wondering what are the households like, are they somewhat like a dorm, or do they live in the same building, or is it entirely up to us on what type of setting we live in? Do you know a particular website other than the official JET Programme website that explains the advantages and disadvantges of being a JET since I personally don't know anyone in particular that's in the program.
You live by yourself in an apartment. Here are some websites about JET and videos of typical apartments in Japan:

BigDaikon

IThinkImLost

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
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I'm still a student and I will apply for JET when I'm in my last semester in a few years. The JET Program is the best program to be in if you want to be an ALT. They provide you with a plane ticket to Japan and treat you well. It gets positive reviews from everyone that's been a part of it and it's not stressful at all.
Shouldn't you apply for the JET Programme after receiving your bachelor's degree?
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Shouldn't you apply for the JET Programme after receiving your bachelor's degree?
No. You can apply for JET during your last semester as long as you have proof that you'll graduate by July 1 of that year. The application is available in September. The deadline of the application is in November/early December.
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Shouldn't you apply for the JET Programme after receiving your bachelor's degree?
If you graduate in the spring (which more college students do than in the winter), you missed the JET deadline by a few months, so you have to sit around for another half a year before the deadline rolls around again. I too am applying for JET this upcoming fall semester, as it is my senior year. Since I expect to graduate before summer, all should be well. They don't care if you haven't graduated yet as long as they know you'll have your degree by the required date.

I don't know, however, if this is the case for other Eikawa institutions.
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05-27-2007, 11:45 PM

JET programme participants often live in the apartment of their predecessor and inherit all their belongings in most cases such as a fridge, futons, couches, TV's, bikes, books, lesson plans, etcetera.

The application and interview process is 9 months to a year from the time of applying to the time your job begins which is why you will apply before you have your degree.

There are two start times for ALT's (including JET's), the majority start in August while some will begin in April depending on when your predecessor is on their way out.

There are a lot of perks to being a JET. The only downside is the placement part in that you do not choose where you will be working.
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05-27-2007, 11:57 PM

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JET programme participants often live in the apartment of their predecessor and inherit all their belongings in most cases such as a fridge, futons, couches, TV's, bikes, books, lesson plans, etcetera.

The application and interview process is 9 months to a year from the time of applying to the time your job begins which is why you will apply before you have your degree.

There are two start times for ALT's (including JET's), the majority start in August while some will begin in April depending on when your predecessor is on their way out.

There are a lot of perks to being a JET. The only downside is the placement part in that you do not choose where you will be working.
Are you in the JET Progamme, or were you hired through a private company?
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Are you in the JET Progamme, or were you hired through a private company?
I work for a company so I'm not a JET. The reasons are simply that by the time I decided to teach English in Japan I did not have time to apply and second I didn't think I would be accepted because on paper my university career did not look so grand. I have thought about applying to JET, but I would have to return home to do so which wouldn't be all that bad considering it would give me nearly a year at home.

So to clarify, you can not apply to the JET Programme from within Japan. Why? I don't know, it is fairly retarded. Let me outline the perks of being a JET a little more for you.

All ALT's are paid by the board of education that they work for around 300,000 yen per month. For the board of education, the cost of hiring a JET versus a private is nearly the same. I say nearly because JET's have all these little conferences they get sent off to, so occasionally they can be a little more expensive but not much more.

If you work for a company, your company is earning whatever they are not paying you out of that 300,000. For most companies that means around 50,000 yen a month per ALT that they hire and contract to the board of education.

However, as a JET programme ALT the pay you take home at the end of the month is not 300,000. JET's pay into the Japanese form of social security which takes around 40,000 yen per month. Non-JET ALT's pay the minimum income tax in Japan which is around 9,000 to 10,000 yen per month. However, JET's have the opportunity to file a form to have most of what they have paid into the pension plan returned to them at the time they leave Japan. So around a thousand dollars or so at the end of their stays will be returned. Most non-JET's are also paid completion bonuses but not nearly as much as the combined bonuses of airfare along with the pension returns. So month by month we make the same but in the long run JET's take home more.

Now for the other benefits.
JET's receive a inheritance basically of a lot of things from their predecessors. If you are a non-JET and your company does not promise such things as bedding, deposits for you apartment, an apartment that comes with a TV, fridge, microwave, light fixtures, stove top, and a washer. You might end up having to buy all these things yourself. Yes, some apartments in Japan do not have light fixtures and stove tops. Then you have other perks like all the books most JET's leave behind, bicycles and basically whatever they deem not worth taking home. Now there are a lot of companies out there that will set you up with most of these things. Some companies will even be providing you with a car and paying for insurance and things like that. It all depends on what you are promised and what you can weasel out of them.

Third benefit of being a JET, automatic friends. I have friends that are JET's and those that work for other companies. But to be completely honest, JET's tend to either stick together or congregate more with other JET's than other ALT's working for the same company. Why? JET's always have these JET conferences and parties throughout the year and the only way I would know about them is when my JET friends invite me. Then I always get the, "What? You're not a JET. Why are you here?" To which I reply, "My friend so and so said there was a lot of beer here, so here I am." Anyways, the point is you are automatically in a little club whereas other ALT's have to go out and demonstrate our ability to make friends on our own. It is almost like joining a fraternity in a way.

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05-28-2007, 03:25 AM

Hmm, thanks for the response Jason, much appreciated. Well to be honest, I'm not too into the whole "fan club" and local parties that JET provides, I'm more into the culture and want to learn from them as well, would you recommend me joining a "private company" like yourself instead of joining the JET Programme? Also, I also have a problem with the time of process when applying to the JET Programme, which is another drawback of the program itself. How's working for a company so far for you, and if you could join the JET Programme if offered, would you have a change of heart or stick with your company?

Edit: Also, say I'm not into the whole orientations and countless gatherings that incoming JET's have to go through when they first arrive in Japan, is my best bet to avoid such matters is to join a company?

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Edit: Also, say I'm not into the whole orientations and countless gatherings that incoming JET's have to go through when they first arrive in Japan, is my best bet to avoid such matters is to join a company?
Are you saying you don't want to be trained on how to do your job? Because that's what most of the orientation entails. Working for the JET Programme isn't going to make you miss out on any of the 'cultural' aspects of Japan. It's your choice whether you want to congregate with other foreigners all the time or not. You can be as independent in the JET Programme as you can in any of the other private Eikawa companies - no one's making you attend JET "parties".

Concerning differences between JET and private companies, where and how often you work is usually different. But your day-to-day life and your social life, as well as how you want to experience Japan culturally would not be different.

That said, you said you were just becoming a senior in high school if I remember? These things are a long way off for you. You should be thinking about where you want to go to school. Which school, the costs, etc -- you should be looking at schools and asking whether this school will give you the skills you need to work in Japan - it's fine to investigate your future career prospects, but you shouldn't worry about all the minute details until you're a little further along in college. Trust me, even if you still want to go to Japan, your aspirations and goals of what you want to DO in Japan may change by the time your in your junior/senior year of college.
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