what's bad in japan?

[MMM]

Originally Posted by SonozakiSotaro

There is definately an issue of racism, but keep in mind that all tourists are interesting...

Why do people keep saying this?

When I talk about Japan with people that actually know about Japan, racism never comes up.

Originally Posted by SonozakiSotaro

Just like any country there are disrespectful people, but to some extent everyone is rude.

That is one of the most backwards comments I have ever read. I have found that Japanese people are much kinder and more helpful to strangers than people in other parts of the world.

Originally Posted by SonozakiSotaro

People from other countries will always be thought of as lower because they are not citizens, it is just the way it goes.

Again, 100% wrong. As a country Japan has a low self-esteem and usually looks outside it's borders for innovation. The CEOs of several of the major automobile corporations in Japan are foreigners.

Originally Posted by SonozakiSotaro

This is because they have do not have very much experience and the residents do.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

[Kiyuge]

Originally Posted by MMM

Why do people keep saying this?

When I talk about Japan with people that actually know about Japan, racism never comes up.



That is one of the most backwards comments I have ever read. I have found that Japanese people are much kinder and more helpful to strangers than people in other parts of the world.



Again, 100% wrong. As a country Japan has a low self-esteem and usually looks outside it's borders for innovation. The CEOs of several of the major automobile corporations in Japan are foreigners.



You have no idea what you are talking about.

Oh but I think he does know what he is talking about.
No matter what there is always some form of dissrespectfull people, in any country, but you may not run into them or you just might. So yes the Japanese may be very kind and help tourist's but there may be some that just lead you in the wrong direction and screw you over completely. Its irrevelivent.

And no I dont think the comment he made was backwords. It made perfect sense to me but thats just me.

And you dont know that he is 100% wrong. You may be looking into what he is trying to say too hard.

Yes to some extent everyone is rude but does that mean they have to show their rude side? No. They can help people around a little and show what a good country Japan (or any other country) can be.

[MMM]

Originally Posted by Kiyuge

Oh but I think he does know what he is talking about.
No matter what there is always some form of dissrespectfull people, in any country, but you may not run into them or you just might. So yes the Japanese may be very kind and help tourist's but there may be some that just lead you in the wrong direction and screw you over completely. Its irrevelivent. And no I dont think the comment he made was backwords. It made perfect sense to me but thats just me.

He said "to some extent, everyone is rude". That simply isn't true.

And I have never heard of people leading tourists in the wrong direction just for kicks in Japan (though I have had it done to me in two unfamiliar cities in the US...one was a taxi driver). It just doesn't happen.

Originally Posted by Kiyuge

And you dont know that he is 100% wrong. You may be looking into what he is trying to say too hard.

I am not looking "too hard", I am a just reading what he wrote. It's still 100% wrong.

Originally Posted by Kiyuge

Yes to some extent everyone is rude but does that mean they have to show their rude side? No. They can help people around a little and show what a good country Japan (or any other country) can be.

No. Not everyone is rude. Why would you even think something like that? I am going to go out on a limb and guess that you have never been to Japan.

Japan isn't like the US where everyone is worried about themselves first and everyone else second. I know it is a hard idea to grasp for westerners. The idea of lying to a tourist to get them lost would never even occur to 99% of Japanese people. The reason is because when someone asks you directions you represent your neighborhood. If you mess with the person, then they will think "people that live there like to lie to tourists" and that will make the neighborhood look bad. No one wants that, so that's why it would never occur to them to play jokes like that.

[Kiyuge]

Originally Posted by MMM

He said "to some extent, everyone is rude". That simply isn't true.

And I have never heard of people leading tourists in the wrong direction just for kicks in Japan (though I have had it done to me in two unfamiliar cities in the US...one was a taxi driver). It just doesn't happen.



I am not looking "too hard", I am a just reading what he wrote. It's still 100% wrong.



No. Not everyone is rude. Why would you even think something like that? I am going to go out on a limb and guess that you have never been to Japan.

Japan isn't like the US where everyone is worried about themselves first and everyone else second. I know it is a hard idea to grasp for westerners. The idea of lying to a tourist to get them lost would never even occur to 99% of Japanese people. The reason is because when someone asks you directions you represent your neighborhood. If you mess with the person, then they will think "people that live there like to lie to tourists" and that will make the neighborhood look bad. No one wants that, so that's why it would never occur to them to play jokes like that.

You dont know these things for sure. How can you bee 100% sure that such things dont occur? This isnt ideal world. No damn country is perfect. So how the heck do know that what your saying is 100% true? There are asswipes in every country! There is no avoiding it. And I'm not saying that such things happen all the time but its likely that they could happen. So explain to me. How do you know what your saying is true? And how do you know what he said was 100% wrong?! For all you know he could be at the very least half right!

[MMM]

Originally Posted by Kiyuge

You dont know these things for sure. How can you bee 100% sure that such things dont occur? This isnt ideal world. No damn country is perfect. So how the heck do know that what your saying is 100% true? There are asswipes in every country! There is no avoiding it. And I'm not saying that such things happen all the time but its likely that they could happen. So explain to me. How do you know what your saying is true? And how do you know what he said was 100% wrong?! For all you know he could be at the very least half right!

This is what he said:

Originally Posted by SonozakiSotaro

People from other countries will always be thought of as lower because they are not citizens, it is just the way it goes.

This is the statement I said is 100% not true.

The reason I know it is 100% not true is because people from other countries ARE NOT always thought of as "lower" because they are not Japanese citizens. If anything the opposite is more true, and people are thought more highly of if they are from other countries. This is true of athletes, actors, musicians, etc. If you read my comment you saw that I said several of the major Japanese auto-makers have hired foreigners as their CEOs. Does the statement "People from other countries will always be thought of as lower" still sound correct?

[Kiyuge]

Originally Posted by MMM

This is what he said:



This is the statement I said is 100% not true.

The reason I know it is 100% not true is because people from other countries ARE NOT always thought of as "lower" because they are not Japanese citizens. If anything the opposite is more true, and people are thought more highly of if they are from other countries. This is true of athletes, actors, musicians, etc. If you read my comment you saw that I said several of the major Japanese auto-makers have hired foreigners as their CEOs. Does the statement "People from other countries will always be thought of as lower" still sound correct?

Did I ever say that statement was correct? Of course that one is not correct. But I dont think he was talking about bussiness men and what not. Like tourists and all... Who knows? But still. You said that most of what he said was 100% wrong and I dont think that most of it was wrong just a few portions. Just try to look at where he is coming from. Plus not to mention he could be offended by some of the things that were said in this thread and didnt think clearly when he was posting what he did. Try to consider the possibilities.

[MMM]

Originally Posted by Kiyuge

Did I ever say that statement was correct? Of course that one is not correct. But I dont think he was talking about bussiness men and what not. Like tourists and all... Who knows? But still. You said that most of what he said was 100% wrong and I dont think that most of it was wrong just a few portions. Just try to look at where he is coming from. Plus not to mention he could be offended by some of the things that were said in this thread and didnt think clearly when he was posting what he did. Try to consider the possibilities.

Kiyuge, please. This isn't a therapy session. I am not worried about what kind of day he had or what might have offended him.

He made a series of statements that were based in nothing but fantasy and I was simply pointing that out. I can't worry about whether he was "thinking clearly" or not.

[Nagoyankee]

Originally Posted by SonozakiSotaro

I live in Japan!!!! Well...only part-time, but yeah! Native speaker here!!!
Lately I've been working on my English...because it's poor...

Dear MMM,

It seems like a big waste of time talking to Kiyuge. In SonozakiSotaro's profile, it says "This is Kiyuge's other account."

And SonozakiSotaro did a poor job of pretending to be a Japanese native speaker trying to learn English. He sounds plain American in that post.

Talk about role-players...

[Kiyuge]

Originally Posted by Nagoyankee

Dear MMM,

It seems like a big waste of time talking to Kiyuge. In SonozakiSotaro's profile, it says "This is Kiyuge's other account."

And SonozakiSotaro did a poor job of pretending to be a Japanese native speaker trying to learn English. He sounds plain American in that post.

Talk about role-players...

Escuse me but that is KIYUGA! not KIYUGE! Read things correctly! Im sick of getting confused with her! KIYUGA KIYUGA KIYUGA! NOT KIYUGE!!!

[MMM]

Originally Posted by Nagoyankee

Dear MMM,

It seems like a big waste of time talking to Kiyuge. In SonozakiSotaro's profile, it says "This is Kiyuge's other account."

And SonozakiSotaro did a poor job of pretending to be a Japanese native speaker trying to learn English. He sounds plain American in that post.

Talk about role-players...

Thanks, Nagoyankee.

pretending to be Japanese...what will they think of next?