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01-22-2007, 10:54 AM

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I'm sorry if I came across selfish I usually watch whats happening in other parts of the world, but I to.......*lost for words*........I'm glad that you still have dreams that you want to complete.
I'm sorry if I made you fell bad
I was kinda angry
but not any more ^_^
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01-22-2007, 02:46 PM

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I'm sorry if I made you fell bad
I was kinda angry
but not any more ^_^
I'm glad you're not . I am sory tho that I came across baddly, I usually try not to.
So what part of Iraq are you from? (Hopefully not where the fighting is) I have mixed feelings about this conflict.


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Yeah, fruit and veg is expensive! It's not uncommon to eat alot of meals in Japan with no vegies (beside cabbage)- rice and meat/ fish are the staples. I paid around $2 Australian for an apple once And I must say it was the best apple I've ever eaten.

Japan is not like Australia, America or England where nearly every person is of mixed descent. It's just the norm for us, to see different looking people speaking in different tongues every day.
However, in Japan, it's a real spectacle for native Japanese to see a person from another country for some reason. So if you arent Japanese be prepared to be stared at wherever you go! This is good for the outgoing attention lovers, and I loved it at first~being "different"~ but after living there for 10 months it was a little tiring, I just wanted to fit in.

I think the saddest part about Japan, however, is suicide. Suicide happens everywhere but Japan's suicide rate is higher than that of any other country, and not just adults- children are taking their own lives too. It's totally incomprehensible for me as to why 12 or 13 year olds would do such a thing. Surely they could talk to someone if they were troubled? If they were being bullied at school, why can't their parents talk to them and reassure them and tell them they are special and loved? Why do they want to end their lives when they haven't even lived yet?
When you take a look at the Japanese psyche and way of life, it becomes a little more understandable. Still incomprehensible, but more understandable, if that makes any sense at all. I think it boils down to pressure. Pressure to be the best academic, the best sportsman, to always put in 100% in whatever they do. School, club practice and cram school take up a typical students life, it IS their life, so if one of those aspects falls apart, its easy to see that the student may feel their life is falling apart. They may feel they have nothing to live for. If a student is bullied, then they have to keep all of that negativity on themselves. Japanese people on the whole are reserved people. They don't say directly what they are thinking or how they are feeling, so it's difficult for most people to confide in someone if they are having troubles, even if that someone is a family member.
Also, because suicide is something that occurs frequently, alot of kids would see it on the news and start to think that it's a valid option out of unhappiness. It's so sad, and something that can't be solved easily, if at all. I think we can all play a little part though, just by taking the time to talk to Japanese people, Japanese kids and by opening up ourselves, make them see that it's okay to open up, confide in people and ask for help. Not just in Japan either, but the world over.

All the world needs is LOVE.

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02-02-2007, 01:29 PM

Yeah, fruit and veg is expensive! It's not uncommon to eat alot of meals in Japan with no vegies (beside cabbage)- rice and meat/ fish are the staples. I paid around $2 Australian for an apple once And I must say it was the best apple I've ever eaten.

Japan is not like Australia, America or England where nearly every person is of mixed descent. It's just the norm for us, to see different looking people speaking in different tongues every day.
However, in Japan, it's a real spectacle for native Japanese to see a person from another country for some reason. So if you arent Japanese be prepared to be stared at wherever you go! This is good for the outgoing attention lovers, and I loved it at first~being "different"~ but after living there for 10 months it was a little tiring, I just wanted to fit in.

I think the saddest part about Japan, however, is suicide. Suicide happens everywhere but Japan's suicide rate is higher than that of any other country, and not just adults- children are taking their own lives too. It's totally incomprehensible for me as to why 12 or 13 year olds would do such a thing. Surely they could talk to someone if they were troubled? If they were being bullied at school, why can't their parents talk to them and reassure them and tell them they are special and loved? Why do they want to end their lives when they haven't even lived yet?
When you take a look at the Japanese psyche and way of life, it becomes a little more understandable. Still incomprehensible, but more understandable, if that makes any sense at all. I think it boils down to pressure. Pressure to be the best academic, the best sportsman, to always put in 100% in whatever they do. School, club practice and cram school take up a typical students life, it IS their life, so if one of those aspects falls apart, its easy to see that the student may feel their life is falling apart. They may feel they have nothing to live for. If a student is bullied, then they have to keep all of that negativity on themselves. Japanese people on the whole are reserved people. They don't say directly what they are thinking or how they are feeling, so it's difficult for most people to confide in someone if they are having troubles, even if that someone is a family member.
Also, because suicide is something that occurs frequently, alot of kids would see it on the news and start to think that it's a valid option out of unhappiness. It's so sad, and something that can't be solved easily, if at all. I think we can all play a little part though, just by taking the time to talk to Japanese people, Japanese kids and by opening up ourselves, make them see that it's okay to open up, confide in people and ask for help. Not just in Japan either, but the world over.

All the world needs is LOVE.

Peace xx
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I'm not in Japan, I'm not living in Japan, but when I visited I wasn't the 8-day-in-Tokyo type either. I lived it, I saw real Japan, and here's what I didn't like:
There are no vans. There's nothing in between a car and a lorry. Very odd. The weather was terrible, very similar to the British weather. I found the roads to be slightly ridiculous too, lots of winding curves adding so many unnecessary miles to every journey. Don't even get me started on the bloody food. The age limit for tobacco, you can't smoke until you're 20 years old - that's silly, but of course it has a great upside too, the cigarettes come from vending machines which anyone can use, and they're so so cheap. They're about a quarter of the price in Japan as in England, so can't complain there unless I got caught being underage. I'll come up with some more later.


"There are no vans. There's nothing in between a car and a lorry. Very odd."
Yeah to you maybe,but just because they don't have it doesn't mean that they are or the country is odd.
And if you go there you should right from the start know about the weather and the food.
And the tobacco, isn't that just good?
I don't know what you knew before you went to japan really. maybe you should have stayed home?


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20 routine - 02-25-2007, 01:14 AM

Please!!! what is the 20 routine questions???

I'd really like to know... Don't leave it hanged please!
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Sorry yamada, i don't know this 20 routine questions either...

I have been reading this thread thoroughly for the last few days (sorry, i'm still a newbie here) and to be honest, I find it as probably the most informative and serious thread that i read so far in this forum...I have to give credit to jasmine for coming up with this thread...very eye opening as many of us have realized...As the famous saying goes, 'you can only really know a person (or a country) once you have known his dark side not just his good side.'

I have to give credit too to Gloobey (i'm hearing a lot of boos now from the forum members)...not because I believe everything he said against japan but because his attacks prompted nearly everyone in the forum to say their piece or defend what they think is right...Sometimes, it's good to have someone challenge what we think is right so we can re-think and re-evaluate how we picture a thing, say japan in this case...

Anyway, i also give credits to Nyororin, jasonbvr, Pachipro for sharing their actual experiences (both good and bad) in Japan...Like many forum members, i now have a more accurate picture of what living in Japan is like..

And like jasmine, Tsukikage, Vesperd, etc. , I am still bent on going to Japan even for just a few days...

Although I have not been to Japan yet, I have been to other countries like the US (13 months) and the UK (5 months)... And right now, I'm working here in mainland China...Being an Asian , I experienced discrimination in one form or another in the western countries that I went to but these were isolated cases...I still had a generally enjoyable experience in those places...And I believe going to Japan is no exception...I may also encounter some bad experiences like Gloobey but rather than complain and grumble, I hope that i can try to understand their culture and speak their language so I can better appreciate my stay there...
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I think the saddest part about Japan, however, is suicide. Suicide happens everywhere but Japan's suicide rate is higher than that of any other country, and not just adults- children are taking their own lives too. It's totally incomprehensible for me as to why 12 or 13 year olds would do such a thing... I think we can all play a little part though, just by taking the time to talk to Japanese people, Japanese kids and by opening up ourselves, make them see that it's okay to open up, confide in people and ask for help. Not just in Japan either, but the world over.

All the world needs is LOVE.

Peace xx
I tend to agree with you kristina on this suicide phenomenon in japan...There was even a popular manga which was made into a film about suicide...i believe it's Jisatsu Sakkuru, also known as 'Suicide Club' or Jisatsu Circle (2002)...i think this movie was also discussed on another thread somewhere in this forum...i've also read that there was even an online site or something like that where japanese can meet so they can commit suicide in groups...

In old Japan, committing suicide like harakiri or kamikaze attacks are considered honorable...but nowadays, i don't think japanese folks are driven by this same kind of honor when they commit suicide...it's indeed very sad...
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Btw, i have a stupid question that I am not afraid to ask...Are organized crimes like the Yakuza, something that a foreigner needs to be concerned about when staying in Japan? Do they like targeting foreigners such as threatening them or extorting money?
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