my life long dream

[MMM]

Originally Posted by Almazing1000

It's fine to challenge him on his position, and what he says, but I can't let you try to put my friend's (who's like a brother) personal life on the spot. I believe in this kid and think that he should go for his dreams, but he put his self out there and asked for other people's opinions. Yakumo simply supplied dreamsandhopes request. I would suggest you lay off of my friend's personal life and stick to the topic at hand. I don't care how young this kid is, I'm sure he's old enough to know that life isn't always going to tell you something to make you feel good.

Al, I just said I wondered where in Japan he is from.

Whenever I meet a person from Japan, I always wonder where they are from.

Let's all take a deep breath, alright?

[Almazing1000]

Originally Posted by MMM

Al, I just said I wondered where in Japan he is from.

Whenever I meet a person from Japan, I always wonder where they are from.

Let's all take a deep breathe, alright?

Well it looked as if you were trying to prove a point. He may be a bit of a prick sometimes, but he is also a dear friend.

[MMM]

Originally Posted by MutsuYakumo

Listen if this kid wants real information then he would go out and look for it. When you just give a kid like this information he won't appreciate it as a matter of fact he'll take it for granted, and if he makes it to Japan off of advise of others he would have to continue to look to others for help. If he goes out and look for information we would cherish it because it took hard work and not just been given to him, and he'll be more independent. It's simply nature vs. nurture.

Enough with jumping to conclusions. He made one single post.

I joined Japan Forum because I have knowledge that I think can help people.

People ask questions, then they answer them. We share information.

If you don't want to share your information, then don't, but don't go saying "he won't appreciate it as a matter of fact he'll take it for granted". When your parents moved to America, did they ask anyone for advice? Of course they did. What if everyone they asked had the same attitude as you? Then you'd probably still be living in Japan.

Originally Posted by MutsuYakumo

I moved here when I was a kid. Umeda, yeah I hear there is some good shopping there, I hope you enjoy it. But this isn't about me, so let's stay on the real topic. If you want to know more about me PM me. Honestly I'm not really interested in your life story but takes anyway.

And if you're having problems with other people take it up with them. Don't put me on the spot, maybe it's the people who worked hard that are tired of people who wants to half ass it. Take that into consideration.

I can't tell you how sorry I am I asked. But, if you don't want to talk about your life in Japan, then don't mention you are Japanese on Japan Forum.

I put you on the spot because you jumped into this thread with guns blazing. Again, let's try and be helpful and not discouraging.

[MMM]

Originally Posted by Almazing1000

Well it looked as if you were trying to prove a point. He may be a bit of a prick sometimes, but he is also a dear friend.

I think both you and your dear friend need to tone down the sensitivity.

[MutsuYakumo]

Originally Posted by MMM

When your parents moved to America, did they ask anyone for advice? Of course they did. What if everyone they asked had the same attitude as you? Then you'd probably still be living in Japan.

My parents took night classes, and was tutored by my friend's mother to learn English, and American customs, they worked their asses off. So no, nobody just gave them answers they went out a got them.

Originally Posted by MMM

Enough with jumping to conclusions. He made one single post.

I joined Japan Forum because I have knowledge that I think can help people.

People ask questions, then they answer them. We share information.

If you don't want to share your information, then don't, but don't go saying "he won't appreciate it as a matter of fact he'll take it for granted".

You're another person so caught up in trying to look like a hero that you don't see things clearly, or even know what you're really defending. If you read everything I've posted (and I implore you to read them closely) then anyone with a sound mind would understand what I'm talking about. I think you have a chip on your shoulder about other people, and you thought you were going to take it out on me. You like the other person are simply arguing with me for personal reasons.

Originally Posted by MMM

I can't tell you how sorry I am I asked. But, if you don't want to talk about your life in Japan, then don't mention you are Japanese on Japan Forum.

I don't care what you ask me just as long as it's the right time and place. It did seem like you were trying to tie a point into it. And yeah my friend takes up for me because he's a friend, and that's what friends do, no matter what we have each others back. You may call it being over sensitive but I call it being a kick ass BAMF.

[TalnSG]

Originally Posted by MutsuYakumo

And kid if I were you I would start thinking of something else. You're not going to Japan, a lot of people are going to tell you it's possible and to keep trying, but it useless. Save yourself the hassle and just give up.

Its nice to have proof I am not the most callous and arrogant person on this forum. Arigato, MutsuYakumo.

But rather than argue whether a negative assertion is correct on not, consider this. Even the most hopeless and never-realized dream can be worth keeping. Some can inspire a corollary dream that is possible. Others may lead to the start of an entirely different path where the person truly belongs.

Case in point, I have a dream that I have known since early in my teens was completely unattainable for me - absolutely, physically impossible to achieve the utlimate goal:Prima ballerina. However, its presence in my heart led me to pursue other avenues that had pieces of that dream which I could make happen that the opportunity to pursue would probably never have been noticed if it weren't for my silly pipedream. Because my heart wanted to dance, but I shredded ankles could not handle the stress of ballet, I discovered yoga, tap dance, salsa, tango, roller skating.

Reality checks are definitely needed more often around here, but we all need to give it some more thought before telling someone to give up their dreams.

[MMM]

Originally Posted by MutsuYakumo

My parents took night classes, and was tutored by my friend's mother to learn English, and American customs, they worked their asses off. So no, nobody just gave them answers they went out a got them.

So your parents got help, worked hard and made it to America. Going to Japan requires both help and hard work.

Originally Posted by MutsuYakumo

You're another person so caught up in trying to look like a hero that you don't see things clearly, or even know what you're really defending.

I am trying to remain civil, Mutsu, but for someone who has been here for a day, I think it is a little early for you to start tossing around insults.

I have no desire to be a hero. And I know exactly what I am defending.

Originally Posted by MutsuYakumo

If you read everything I've posted (and I implore you to read them closely) then anyone with a sound mind would understand what I'm talking about.

I would never say getting to Japan isn't difficult, and I have read every post you have made.

Here are some highlights:
You're not going to Japan, a lot of people are going to tell you it's possible and to keep trying, but it useless. Save yourself the hassle and just give up.

But until then like anyone else who is a realist I doubt that it's something he'll see through to the end.

The odds are stacked against him. Sorry but that's life.

They have no interest in my culture, they have no interest in working for the opportunity to visit my country. They want to push "the easy button."

A lot of people wants to go to New York because they would love to be a model, that doesn't mean that they should.

You don't belong in Japan, you can't love something that you don't know or understand.

only a fool supports a fool.

he has an unhealthy obsession with something that he knows very little about.

Mutsu, we have enough negativity here without stacking on more. All I am saying is, please be helpful or be quiet. Helpful doesn't mean candy-coating your posts, but it does mean please don't take a dump on every kid that has a dream of going to Japan. That's all.

Originally Posted by MutsuYakumo

I think you have a chip on your shoulder about other people, and you thought you were going to take it out on me. You like the other person are simply arguing with me for personal reasons.

I don't know you, so I don't have any personal reasons to go after you. Like I said before, you came out with guns blazing, and I am calling you on it. It doesn't need to go any farther than that. No chip here. I hope you and Al become longtime contributors to these forums, as you have experiences many people don't have.

Originally Posted by MutsuYakumo

I don't care what you ask me just as long as it's the right time and place. It did seem like you were trying to tie a point into it. And yeah my friend takes up for me because he's a friend, and that's what friends do, no matter what we have each others back. You may call it being over sensitive but I call it being a kick ass BAMF.

Threads sometimes morph, and I usually don't PM when I don't need to. You mentioned you were Japanese, and I asked where you were from. I hope sometime we can talk more about it when the dust has settled.

[MutsuYakumo]

Originally Posted by MMM

Here are some highlights:
You're not going to Japan, a lot of people are going to tell you it's possible and to keep trying, but it useless. Save yourself the hassle and just give up.

But until then like anyone else who is a realist I doubt that it's something he'll see through to the end.

The odds are stacked against him. Sorry but that's life.

They have no interest in my culture, they have no interest in working for the opportunity to visit my country. They want to push "the easy button."

A lot of people wants to go to New York because they would love to be a model, that doesn't mean that they should.

You don't belong in Japan, you can't love something that you don't know or understand.

only a fool supports a fool.

he has an unhealthy obsession with something that he knows very little about.

Mutsu, we have enough negativity here without stacking on more. All I am saying is, please be helpful or be quiet. Helpful doesn't mean candy-coating your posts, but it does mean please don't take a dump on every kid that has a dream of going to Japan. That's all.

Those are some of my favorite talking points actually and when mixed with the rest of what was left out they make some very compelling arguments.

Originally Posted by MMM

Mutsu, we have enough negativity here without stacking on more. All I am saying is, please be helpful or be quiet. Helpful doesn't mean candy-coating your posts, but it does mean please don't take a dump on every kid that has a dream of going to Japan. That's all.

This is what I mean by having a chip on your shoulder. You look at threads and posts and you see negativity from other people. But instead of confronting them, and telling them how you feel, you aim at me because I'm new. Not talking to the people who pushed you to the point that makes you feel that there is too much negativity is a personal problem.

Originally Posted by MMM

I don't know you, so I don't have any personal reasons to go after you. Like I said before, you came out with guns blazing, and I am calling you on it. It doesn't need to go any farther than that. No chip here.

This further proves my point that you just want to be a hero, and prove a point. Of course I know that you have no personal issues with me, but you see me as a new guy who has no right to speak his mind, or you were under the impression that if you said something to me that I would back down and cower. As long as this is a public domain, and someone asks for a public opinion then I will state my opinion how I want, I don't care if they like it or not.

Originally Posted by SHAD0W

I don't care if he isnt from japan, he makes me lol and makes sense.

Obviously it's pretty easy for someone to think that you were getting at something with your question.

Originally Posted by MMM

I hope sometime we can talk more about it when the dust has settled.

Yeah, that's possible.

All in all this kid is going to hear a lot worse, and hopefully it makes him a stronger person. However I respectfully have no further interest in continuing this debate, your argument has a weak foundation, has become repetitive, and can be done by anyone (I had almost this same argument earlier). You seem like a nice guy with good intentions but, this kid needs to see how the world works, that way he can adapt, and become a productive member of society.

[MMM]

I go after everyone who is overly negative, but especially those who, again, come out with guns blazing BECAUSE you are new, and I don't know you and you don't know JF. Now we have gotten to know each other a little better, and hopefully we are seeing eye-to-eye.

I look forward to more discussions in the future.

[nobora]

Thats my dream too I want to live in tokyo and become a manga artist and own a bakey shop