my life long dream

[biginjapan]

Originally Posted by MutsuYakumo

Odds are it's not going to happen. You like a lot of other people think that we're living in a world where you can just do what you want with no regards to anything or anyone else. Your grandfather could move to Hawaii from the Philippines (which you spelled wrong) in a time and place where things are a lot easier. I know people who speak fluent Japanese and are having a hard time in Japan, so how do you figure you're going to do any better? Japan is not like Hawaii where people go to take things easy and try to "make a new life" in most places it's really busy. There is no way that you're going to move there. You can't even get excepted to most colleges without being able to speak fluent Japanese, and you're not getting a job there, so if you do visit you won't be there for long. Trust me it'll be a lot easier if you just gave up. You'll have better chances moving to the intercontinental United States, I mean your English is shit but I guess it's okay enough that most people will look over it.

"I mean your English is shit"

"You can't even get excepted"

[biginjapan]

Originally Posted by saaxu

Most study abroad programs still require that you've taken at least a year of university level Japanese before you can apply for a program. And unless you plan to attend an primarily international school in Japan or you're a science major, you're going to have to take a few courses in taught in Japanese.

Not true at all, look into IES Tokyo. Requires ZERO Japanese, even met people who couldn't read hiragana or katakana.

[saaxu]

Originally Posted by biginjapan

Not true at all, look into IES Tokyo. Requires ZERO Japanese, even met people who couldn't read hiragana or katakana.

Did you even read my post? I said most have a language requirement and unless you were planning to attend an international school, you need to know some Japanese beforehand since some classes are only taught in Japanese. According to the IES Tokyo program you mentioned there are two programs, one for Meikai University and one for Kanda University. Meikai has a language requirement of three college semesters of Japanese while Kanda (an international school like I mentioned) requires none. Neither of these schools are prestigious though.

Majority of programs have a language requirement and those that don't are usually international schools composed primarily of foreign students.

[DeathnoteCrazy102]

All i can say is these lot of words...The whole japanese system is different then anybodys else and all of you need to know to fucking stopped being so obsessed with them just because they do cool stuff. all you people dont understand that you need to grasp life and dont always just focus on "The japan dream". God help me so i was like that too but i found my life was so stupid after i became so obsessed with the japanese culture. i like the japanese culter and food,language, and animation but...i have a life and i want to know that all you have one too...im 13 and im friends with the president of funamation just because i like anime. sometimes you want to look at life through the eyes of a japanese watching all these americans loving thier country to death. you know how foolish that would seem to them. most people dont come too grasp that you cant just focus on one thing in your life. im on here so i conversate about things like anime and manga and a whole lot of other things. are you on here cause of that or are you just absessed with japan...its sad to see american people walking around with those stupid little shirts that say i Love tokyo... its just really sad. thats all i have too say and if you have a problem with it than just post a comnment opposing it.

[JoBo]

Originally Posted by DeathnoteCrazy102

All i can say is these lot of words...The whole japanese system is different then anybodys else and all of you need to know to fucking stopped being so obsessed with them just because they do cool stuff. all you people dont understand that you need to grasp life and dont always just focus on "The japan dream". God help me so i was like that too but i found my life was so stupid after i became so obsessed with the japanese culture. i like the japanese culter and food,language, and animation but...i have a life and i want to know that all you have one too...im 13 and im friends with the president of funamation just because i like anime. sometimes you want to look at life through the eyes of a japanese watching all these americans loving thier country to death. you know how foolish that would seem to them. most people dont come too grasp that you cant just focus on one thing in your life. im on here so i conversate about things like anime and manga and a whole lot of other things. are you on here cause of that or are you just absessed with japan...its sad to see american people walking around with those stupid little shirts that say i Love tokyo... its just really sad. thats all i have too say and if you have a problem with it than just post a comnment opposing it.

Point 1
There are more than just Americans here that are interested in Japan

Point 2
If you look on a larger scale of how many people love Japan as a majority of population, it's not as big as you're making out.

Point 3
So many Japanese are obsessed with the west just as much as we are obsessed with Japan. Do you think it makes them foolish for taking an interest in our society?



I mean yeah, Japan is different to the west. Go figure- it's a totally different part of the world with a totally different history so that's no surprise. But why does that mean that the people from one culture can't take an interest in people from another culture?

Does that mean that if one person is different to another person then they can't be friends or fall in love just because they're different? Just because a country's system is run differently to another doesn't mean they can't have anything to do with each other. I think it's good, by being interested in other cultures people can learn new ways of thinking and living. Become more open-minded so to speak.

It sounds like you're just voicing a very naive and ignorant opinion. We can all do without you telling us what we can and can't do with our interests thanks.

[fanimeboy]

Originally Posted by JoBo

Point 1
There are more than just Americans here that are interested in Japan

Point 2
If you look on a larger scale of how many people love Japan as a majority of population, it's not as big as you're making out.

Point 3
So many Japanese are obsessed with the west just as much as we are obsessed with Japan. Do you think it makes them foolish for taking an interest in our society?



I mean yeah, Japan is different to the west. Go figure- it's a totally different part of the world with a totally different history so that's no surprise. But why does that mean that the people from one culture can't take an interest in people from another culture?

Does that mean that if one person is different to another person then they can't be friends or fall in love just because they're different? Just because a country's system is run differently to another doesn't mean they can't have anything to do with each other. I think it's good, by being interested in other cultures people can learn new ways of thinking and living. Become more open-minded so to speak.

It sounds like you're just voicing a very naive and ignorant opinion. We can all do without you telling us what we can and can't do with our interests thanks.

i agree with everything she said. dont bring others down just because you think its not going to happen. you never know. let us follow our beliefs. i dont tell you whats wrong with what your doing. by the way thanks for the support

[Arikado]

Originally Posted by JoBo

Point 1
There are more than just Americans here that are interested in Japan

Point 2
If you look on a larger scale of how many people love Japan as a majority of population, it's not as big as you're making out.

Point 3
So many Japanese are obsessed with the west just as much as we are obsessed with Japan. Do you think it makes them foolish for taking an interest in our society?



I mean yeah, Japan is different to the west. Go figure- it's a totally different part of the world with a totally different history so that's no surprise. But why does that mean that the people from one culture can't take an interest in people from another culture?

Does that mean that if one person is different to another person then they can't be friends or fall in love just because they're different? Just because a country's system is run differently to another doesn't mean they can't have anything to do with each other. I think it's good, by being interested in other cultures people can learn new ways of thinking and living. Become more open-minded so to speak.

It sounds like you're just voicing a very naive and ignorant opinion. We can all do without you telling us what we can and can't do with our interests thanks.

Hmm, pretty well said, especially the part about Japanese people being obsessed with western culture. It's the same with so many people in Taiwan too, a lot of my family in fact. All crazy about western this, western that, hahahah. By the way, I see "I <3 NY" and stuff like that on so much crap, just like how you see, "I <3 Tokyo" or something. No difference, really.

[JoBo]

Chiiii~


No problem I totally share your morals so i was standing up for both of us And the last thing an ambitious guy like you needs is idiotic comments like that dragging you down to their level of pessimism ^O^ Just ignore people like that They're not worth listening too if they're just gonna be selfish and mean.

Good luck with it all though! I believe in you! x]

xoxo

[JoBo]

Originally Posted by Arikado

Hmm, pretty well said, especially the part about Japanese people being obsessed with western culture. It's the same with so many people in Taiwan too, a lot of my family in fact. All crazy about western this, western that, hahahah.

Thank you very much I don't normally like to clash with people but when people are like that... like bring other people down and stuff... i can't stand it So i felt i should say something And i get carried away when i try to make a point Hense the essays.

But i never really knew about how they loved western culture too until i made some Japanese friends online that were all begging me to teach them about England. Everything from the language to films to what the girls were like and the weather and everything So it seems to be a two-sided thing

[saaxu]

It's the obsessed attitude that some people hate. If someone said they would like to try out teaching English through the JET program, most wouldn't have a problem. If someone said they plan on studying abroad in Japan during college, most wouldn't have a problem. But when people spout things like how they feel they belong in Japan without every visiting once, that annoys people.

I'll give you an example from personal experience. For a while I was a teacher's aid for a Japanese professor and in Japanese 101 there was a basically three different types of students: those that wanted to learn the language, those that were just there for the credit, and those obsessed with Japanese [superficial] culture. Coincidentally those students sat within those groups. By the end of the semester those that wanted to learn Japanese (primarily Korean international students, as they make up a large part of the school's demographic) received A's in the class. Those just there for credit received B's and C's. And finally those obsessed received a few B's, but mostly C's, and D's. There was only one person that flunked the class, I'll get to her later. Of those people, almost all of the people that wanted to learn or get credit continued on to Japanese 102, while only two of the twelve obsessed people continued. Most of the obsessed students struggled and made it apparent that they didn't take the class seriously although they did for the first few weeks. It's obvious that these people wanted to know the language without learning it, yet brag to others that they know a some Japanese.

The most extreme example was the only girl to flunk the class. When each semester starts the professor usually asks each student they reason they had for taking the course. Her's was that she dreams of moving to Japan to work as a writer for manga. She stated that she used Japanese with tourist that visit Disneyland where she worked, but couldn't give the professor an example of what she would say. She would also constantly listen to J-Pop before, after, and during group work in class stating that she was learning about colors from Utada Hikaru's song "Colors". When the instructor asked to translate a line of the song, she couldn't do it. The professor often put her on the spot because he himself couldn't stand students that say they love Japanese culture, but fail to make any real attempt of learning the language. She would also snack on Pocky and Ramune before class and get excited when people asked what she was eating.

Now she's an extreme example, but you do see these people. They try to make it as if they're basically Japanese at heart by liking Japanese food and entertainment. They fall in love with a fantasized version of Japan and they want to take the easy way to get there, feeling that they'll be accepted and gradually become like the rest of the Japanese population once they get there.