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02-20-2009, 02:37 AM

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You think Japanese women are interesting? I suppose they are, at least superficially, but things are not always as they seem. I've heard any number of rants from westerners who have married Japanese women, and then complain that they only have sex once a month (twice, if they are lucky), and how their wives push them to work hard because if their husbands doesn't work hard enough, they can't be your typical stay-at-home housewives which all Japanese women dream to be.

You'll give your Japanese wife your entire paycheck, and she'll give you an "allowance" which you will use for things like lunch at work, or drinks from vending machines for you to enjoy on your commutes. Her allowance will be quite larger of course, someone has to keep the shops in Ginza and Omotesando Hills in business.

Many Japanese men dream of marrying western women, do you wonder why?

No offense to anyone posted on this thread. But I have no respect for people who abandon their own country (possibly a career too) for such a shallow reason. If you can't find romance in your own homeland then you have some serious thinking to do.

As discussed in another post sometime ago, Japanese girls don't go crazy over a foreigner, you stand out because you are "unique" and I don't mean it in a good way, as a matter, I mean it in a bad way. To them, its no different from owning an unique piece of gadget or a unique pet. Its one of those thing where people show off to others saying "Well I've got one, do you"

So in short, to me, "Going to Japan for Japanese Women" is not a convincing enough reason

Sangetsu I like what you said about how they give you just the right amount of allowance... that seems to be the trend with the "modern" Japanese women, ones who decorate themselves with makeup thicker than dry wall compound and clothing that cost an arm and a leg (and guess whose money they are paying for these clothing with??)..... if he wants to be financially independent, you are going to Aomori to look for girls who doesn't decorate themselves, but then, he probably won't think they are "hot" per se
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02-20-2009, 03:03 AM

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You think Japanese women are interesting? I suppose they are, at least superficially, but things are not always as they seem. I've heard any number of rants from westerners who have married Japanese women, and then complain that they only have sex once a month (twice, if they are lucky), and how their wives push them to work hard because if their husbands doesn't work hard enough, they can't be your typical stay-at-home housewives which all Japanese women dream to be.

You'll give your Japanese wife your entire paycheck, and she'll give you an "allowance" which you will use for things like lunch at work, or drinks from vending machines for you to enjoy on your commutes. Her allowance will be quite larger of course, someone has to keep the shops in Ginza and Omotesando Hills in business.

Many Japanese men dream of marrying western women, do you wonder why?
Blond hair and large breasts?


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02-20-2009, 03:13 AM

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You think Japanese women are interesting? I suppose they are, at least superficially, but things are not always as they seem. I've heard any number of rants from westerners who have married Japanese women, and then complain that they only have sex once a month (twice, if they are lucky), and how their wives push them to work hard because if their husbands doesn't work hard enough, they can't be your typical stay-at-home housewives which all Japanese women dream to be.
I've dated many Japanese girls in Japan and in Canada and I've concluded that I'd be better off looking for a Japanese girl studying/living abroad. The ones who are outside of Japan are much more open minded and have a modern way of thinking.

Mind you, you'll also find some girls who are traveling overseas for the wrong reason as well. ie. Girls who can't hack life, girls who are looking for Caucasians, etc. but generally speaking, the girls will be much more compatible.
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02-20-2009, 04:03 AM

I currently don't have plans on living in Japan... Unless it's for school.
But, if people have dreams, I say let them dream. If their expectations are unrealistic, reality will educate them soon enough. In my opinion, that's the best way to learn.

By the way, Hi, Godwine! I haven't seen you around for awhile.
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02-20-2009, 05:19 AM

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Ok, thats an amazing package, but jobs with that kind of compensation package are also available in North America.



Don't get me wrong, my intention isn't to tell people "Don't Go".
There isn't that kind of a package in my line of work in America. I was able to save most of my money during that time.

I also don't want to tell people not to go, but be prepared first. I go to Japanese classes here and see all of these young people there. They all tell me they want to live there after finding I had lived there. None of them have even visited there and have no idea or plan of what they can do to survive. Also, living in Japan isn't as easy as it is here in America (for Americans at least).


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02-20-2009, 05:21 AM

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I've dated many Japanese girls in Japan and in Canada and I've concluded that I'd be better off looking for a Japanese girl studying/living abroad. The ones who are outside of Japan are much more open minded and have a modern way of thinking.
You are right about that.


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02-20-2009, 06:06 AM

The reason I came in the first place was out of boredom. It is the primary driving force in my life. As a matter of fact the only time I post on JF is when I am bored. After this April I am home for a year or two till I get bored again and then setting my sights on somewhere in South America. I might come back to Japan if I need the job, but I won't be living in the Kanto region again.
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02-20-2009, 06:38 AM

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You think Japanese women are interesting? I suppose they are, at least superficially, but things are not always as they seem. I've heard any number of rants from westerners who have married Japanese women, and then complain that they only have sex once a month (twice, if they are lucky), and how their wives push them to work hard because if their husbands doesn't work hard enough, they can't be your typical stay-at-home housewives which all Japanese women dream to be.

You'll give your Japanese wife your entire paycheck, and she'll give you an "allowance" which you will use for things like lunch at work, or drinks from vending machines for you to enjoy on your commutes. Her allowance will be quite larger of course, someone has to keep the shops in Ginza and Omotesando Hills in business.
I think that Japanese women are REALLY getting the short end of the stick in your interpretation. I`d say that a very very small percentage of women are like that, and those who are just want money and wouldn`t be caught dead marrying - much easier to lead 4 or 5 guys on and suck them dry. (But I guess if you`re stupid enough to fall for a girl in a foreigners bar in Roppongi - you deserve it in my opinion.)

Otherwise, it`s a huge cultural thing. Most Japanese men expect their wives to manage the money, set out a guilt free allowance, etc.
The big reason for staying at home is that Japan does not look well upon working mothers. Children are supposed to be put first, and not forked off to daycare.

Most Japanese women are normal average people who just want to live decent lives - but they`re not "super hot" and don`t hang around bars looking to pick up white guys.

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Many Japanese men dream of marrying western women, do you wonder why?
That`s certainly a new one to me. Don`t you mean "Want to see what it`s like to have sex with a foreign girl." ? Because they sure aren`t interested in marrying them.

This goes both ways, but foreign marriages end like no other because of horribly skewed expectations. It seems like the majority of men coming to Japan to go after Japanese women have watched too much porn and expect to have a little sex bunny for life - and go into shock when she has real feelings and her own ideas of how she wants to lead her life... The biggest blatant reason seems to be that the western side always assumes their desires and plans are the priority, and that the Japanese side should just follow along. 9 times out of 10, that means that the western side expects the Japanese side to move out of Japan with them.


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02-20-2009, 07:53 AM

Let's not forget that there are women of non-Asian descent out there that have a thing for Asian men as well. However the numbers are quite fewer.

That being said my view on coming to Japan for romance is this. Whatever problems are plaguing your love life back home, moving to Japan will certainly not change them. Travel abroad matures a lot of people so in that sense it may help, but it isn't the quick fix some people expect it to be. If you are awkward and socially inept in your homeland, just imagine how much more so you will be in a foreign culture.

On a more personal note, every time I visit home and see beautiful Latino, Caucasian and African-American women I look at them as though they were the foreign, exotic women that Asians once were to me. Also I have a hard time placing their age versus now where I can guess within four years the age of Japanese girl.
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02-20-2009, 08:57 AM

I came here because it made economical sense to do so. It still does. If another country offered me a more comfortable life, I'd probably go there instead.
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