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I go to restaurants, onsens/public baths, karaoke-kans, izakaya and so on ALL the time, I've yet to see any discrimination - and I'm about the whitest dude ever. Quote:
B) Why should I need to go out of my way to prove to some guy on the internet that I live in Japan? Do you really think foreigners don't live in Japan, or something?
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02-22-2009, 02:16 PM
Lets not start a fight. Again, the intent of this is to clear up some myths and to wake a few kids (the kind that Nyorin described) up from their deep sleep.
Lets hear from people "why" they want to move there and correct them if they are wrong, and support them if they have the real and "proper" reason. And of course, experiences from those who successfully moved there are also helpful
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02-22-2009, 03:51 PM
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i rarely watch anime and i've visited japan twice. one for 10 days and the other time for 3 weeks. i'm also due to go there on june the 9th until june the 23rd and i'll be staying in an apartment with my penfriend doing normal things... like food shopping etc. albeit i won't be working as i'm still a "tourist" my reason to go to japan is that... it fascinates me. i understand everyones frustrations about anime kids.. i hate them.. i can quite comfortabley say i HATE them. their reasons are an un-educated mess. however at the same time. your all making this thread out like moving japan is an elitist ordeal than only 1 in a million people do and suceed there. instead of closing the doors.. atleast leave one open. i want to move to japan. i've visited there a few times and my interest and wanton to live there hasn't tarnished. i've been learning the language for 3 years. i have numerous penfriends there but i still have alot to learn. so please. instead of flaming me and shouting about how i shouldn't move to japan. how about those of you who are there and dealing with the hardships i understand will be coming up if i move there... be kind to me and give me advice instead of flaming all people who want to move there... apart from you "elite few" as anime kids. i'm not an anime kid.. but WHY should i feel embarassed and ashamed to say i want to live there. this post stinks of stereotype.. MMM made an excellent post about "anti anime kids" i think godwine.. although funny.. wasn't written well.. Regards |L.p.
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02-22-2009, 07:01 PM
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Anyways, I used to wanna live in Japan and stuff up until the year or two. Then through research online (and being on here), I realized that it was just the idea of Japan I liked and in reality, I couldn't do it. I liked the idea of all the manga and how the Japanese are portrayed through media. But you have to come to a realization of how it really is in Japan. I realized that it just wasn't me and I'd be happier here in Chicago, with my family and friends. It also showed me how different European cultures like German (which I'm studying) and Asian ones such as Japanese (which I used to study) are. And in all honesty...European is for me. No offense to anyone of course. Did that make any sense....? XD
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02-22-2009, 07:05 PM
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 Unfortunately for you, she is not here. "Ride for ruin, and the world ended!"
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02-22-2009, 07:16 PM
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I have family born Europe who tell me things about it there and I have friends who were born there too. So with learning European culture (mostly German), I actually have real accounts, y'know? Edit - I'm not saying I wanna go to Europe now either. I can just relate more to European cultures.
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02-22-2009, 07:24 PM
I agree with those who said they never were refused entrance to a place because they are foreigners. I lived in Japan 2 years, traveled from Nikko to Nagasaki and everywhere in between, and I was never refused service or saw the "No foreigners" signs seen in some anti-Japan youtube videos. They must exist somewhere, maybe near the military bases right after an incident, (unless they are fake and only made for the video?), but they are definitely very rare and probably only found in a few areas. Myself and others who have lived there for years can attest that the vast majority of Japan doesn't have those signs, and are generally welcoming and gracious to foreigners.
As for LorenPaul asking about specific details or hardships of life in Japan, we discussed that quite a bit in MMM's thread "Why I don't want to live in Japan". Take a look through that, it should give you a whole lot of specific details. Other than that, it helps if you narrow the question down. I mean, if someone asked you to explain your life in your home country because they want to move there, where would you even begin? There's work, school, shopping, entertainment, and hundreds of other things you could mention. So please try to ask more narrow questions.
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02-22-2009, 07:27 PM
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I dont know if I want to move in there, because I've never been there before to know if I like it or not, but I would like to visit Japan, because it seems to be a beautiful country, because I would love to learn the language and if possible practise it with japanese people ^^ (I think that's very important, at least for me)... And also because I love to travel and meet new stuff, very simple... But I think, you are right, and you did a great post...And its true many people dont even have a reason why they want to go in there, and many people still think that japan is just like in mangas and stuff...
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02-22-2009, 07:48 PM
LorenPaul: IMO, I feel that those who get chastised for wanting to live in Japan, are those who expect the country to be like his/her favorite anime/manga series. The types who aren't serious about learning the culture and only knows maybe a few words in Japanese from anime/manga they've read or watched and doesn't make much of an effort to properly learn something else. I feel that those are the types who get criticized. I like anime/manga too, not as much as some (anime wise), but I still do watch/read it. I'd like to say that I have a normal interest in the country.
That aside, as for myself, my interest in Japan started when I was about six or seven years old. Maybe five. Ironically, I was drawn in because of anime or manga since I had no idea what anime or manga was. I was watching it before I knew what it referred to. When I was a kid, as long as it was animated and entertaining, I could care less where it came from. Anyway, I was watching VH-1 with my father. In the 1980s, my parents watched MTV and VH-1 a lot, and, imo, both stations were very good back then since they actually played music videos. One of the videos to play was by the group Hiroshima. The name of the song was One Wish. I really enjoyed watching the video. The woman in the video, was doing a fan dance, and now that I've looked into it, I'm assuming that it's Odori style. She was also wearing makeup, like Kabuki artists did. I was drawn in by it. I liked the "dress" she was wearing too. My father had to tell me what the name of the group was because I couldn't figure it out on my own. I've been interested in Asia in general since then. As a teen, mostly interested in places like China, Thailand, India, and then Japan. I noticed that my liking for Japan was bigger, though. The culture interested me a whole lot. A culture that seems to strive on politness and balance is cool to me. I'm also interested in education. For the most part, I'd like to live in Japan for a while to experience the culture and to learn more about it firsthand. I also would like to live there for a while as a way to improve my language skills and to hopefully improve my ability. I feel that it would be a grand experience and opportunity to do so, especially since I am trying to learn the language. I lost my Spanish ability because of my not being able to practice it or use it in an all-Spanish atmosphere. I'd still love to actually go to a Spanish speaking country someday, but have to brush up on Spanish myself.
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