I've got news for everyone!!!!!!

[kirakira]

Originally Posted by solemnclockwork

Also, this is just my/my friend Nick, Calum, Graham, Julie, Niall, experience but, if you really want to move here JUST DO IT!!!! A lot of people are saying you should go for a week and check it out, but in my opinion that's a terrible waste of money. There is no possible way you can even get a glimpse of the working lifestyle here unless you just bite the bullet and move.

The point I was making is that YOU CAN COME HERE AND IF YOU'VE GOT ANY HUSTLE YOU CAN GET A COMPANY TO SPONSOR YOUR VISA REGARDLESS OF WHETHER YOU HAVE A DEGREE OR NOT, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER YOU CAN SPEAK JAPANESE OR NOT
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These are all qoutes from you. Next time try to remember what you post before telling a lie.

But seriously, we all know killyoself is just here to brag, as if he really wants to give anyone any sound advice.

Maybe he is the university janitor for all we know.

[MMM]

Originally Posted by killyoself

MMM, i'm dissapointed. I thought you actually read my posts. But after saying in like 7 posts that I work at a university (not in Shinjuku) you've still managed to get it wrong.

uch, whatever. I'm not going to waste my time on this ish if nobody is even reading what i'm saying.

Y'all on some hater ass ish. I bet if I nodded to you guys on the street you'd shy away and pretend I didn't exist cos you're on some foreigner complex type ish. QUIT HATIN!!!!!! Lying scumbags

I have read every post you made. (I do skim over the gangsta stylings, though. If there was something important in there, I might have missed it.)

You said you had a bunch of friends that worked at your University and then your friend who finagled his way into his job at the school in Shinjuku. I am sorry I made the mistake of thinking your university is in Shinjuku. I can't keep up with all the details of your friends' work histories, especially as you won't tell us where they work or what they do.

[Sangetsu]

Originally Posted by killyoself

I'll reply to each of these posts individually after I get home from work. Bottom line is, you people need to learn how to read.

I said my friend Niall came to Japan without a visa and got a job as a teacher in a business school in Shinjuku.

To tell people that you NEED a visa to get a decent job in Japan is lying. Fact is, you DON'T If you've got some wit & you're savvy or handsome/pretty (mixture of both works best) then I consider it pretty easy to get a job teaching or doing something like PR, modelling etc...

All the other people I work with at the university have degrees. It's none of your business which university that is.

As I said i'll reply to each post after work. But i'd like to know everyone else's background. What makes you such an authority on this topic??

What you mean by "savvy" generally means dishonest. Yes, anyone can buy a degree, or forge documents for employment history, or they can find employers who will do this for them (which is how many Filipinas and Koreans are able to work in the sex trade). But, if you do this on your own, you run the strong risk of being found out and put in a rather nasty cell at the immigration detention center in Shinagawa. If you employer fudges your paperwork for you, he can easily turn you in if you offend him, and then blame you for lying to him when you applied for the job.

A few years ago many people came to Japan with fake degrees which they bought from "degree mills". These people found work in various companies and schools, including several universities. But something happened, and a few people were found out. An investigation followed, and many people ended up being deported for using fake documents.

The economy is suffering in Japan at the moment, and it will get worse before it gets better. When I renewed my visa last week, there were demonstrators outside the office yelling about how foreigners were taking jobs away from Japanese. Many Japanese that I know have been "downsized", meaning that their working hours/days have been cut, or that they have been forced to take a reduction in salary (some by as much as 50%). But the real layoffs and downsizing probably have yet to occur, and when this happens, there will likely be little to no demand for foreign workers, and those that are here will may very well end up losing their jobs to Japanese who are able to do the same work.

You can keep trolling if you like, but you should change your name from "killyoself" back to "john thomas".

[samurai007]

Originally Posted by JoshAussie

Iv got a question..

If ts supposed to be so hard to live/work in Japan.. whats with all the Nigerians? I hear they are everywhere..??

I doubt they are all secretly not telling us about the masters they have in the history of literary theory.

They certainly aren't "everywhere", and those that are there are probably illegal, or using fake documents. The Nigerians are renowned scam artists... where do you think the phrase "Nigerian Email" comes from?

[Sangetsu]

Originally Posted by JoshAussie

Iv got a question..

If ts supposed to be so hard to live/work in Japan.. whats with all the Nigerians? I hear they are everywhere..??

I doubt they are all secretly not telling us about the masters they have in the history of literary theory.

Many of them don't even have a high school education, and no doubt more than a few are here illegally. But the majority of them are married to Japanese nationals, so there are no educational/employment qualifications to satisfy.

And they are not "everywhere". You'll find them in Roppongi and a few other places, but that's pretty much it. The ones I've met who weren't hustlers were actually friendly and interesting people. On the other hand, they don't think twice about taking advantage of any situation or opportunity when it comes up. I noticed them cutting up to the front of the line at Suruga Bank (which used to provide Western Union services), and the bank tellers were always too intimidated to tell them to wait their turn.

[killyoself]

Originally Posted by Sangetsu

What you mean by "savvy" generally means dishonest. Yes, anyone can buy a degree, or forge documents for employment history, or they can find employers who will do this for them (which is how many Filipinas and Koreans are able to work in the sex trade). But, if you do this on your own, you run the strong risk of being found out and put in a rather nasty cell at the immigration detention center in Shinagawa. If you employer fudges your paperwork for you, he can easily turn you in if you offend him, and then blame you for lying to him when you applied for the job.

A few years ago many people came to Japan with fake degrees which they bought from "degree mills". These people found work in various companies and schools, including several universities. But something happened, and a few people were found out. An investigation followed, and many people ended up being deported for using fake documents.

The economy is suffering in Japan at the moment, and it will get worse before it gets better. When I renewed my visa last week, there were demonstrators outside the office yelling about how foreigners were taking jobs away from Japanese. Many Japanese that I know have been "downsized", meaning that their working hours/days have been cut, or that they have been forced to take a reduction in salary (some by as much as 50%). But the real layoffs and downsizing probably have yet to occur, and when this happens, there will likely be little to no demand for foreign workers, and those that are here will may very well end up losing their jobs to Japanese who are able to do the same work.

You can keep trolling if you like, but you should change your name from "killyoself" back to "john thomas".

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Erm, do you think the Japanese can handle the English teaching jobs or work at the American Military base??? Those are the most common jobs for westeners. s-s-s-s-s-stop h-h-h-h-h-hatin

[killyoself]

Originally Posted by solemnclockwork

Also, this is just my/my friend Nick, Calum, Graham, Julie, Niall, experience but, if you really want to move here JUST DO IT!!!! A lot of people are saying you should go for a week and check it out, but in my opinion that's a terrible waste of money. There is no possible way you can even get a glimpse of the working lifestyle here unless you just bite the bullet and move.

The point I was making is that YOU CAN COME HERE AND IF YOU'VE GOT ANY HUSTLE YOU CAN GET A COMPANY TO SPONSOR YOUR VISA REGARDLESS OF WHETHER YOU HAVE A DEGREE OR NOT, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER YOU CAN SPEAK JAPANESE OR NOT
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These are all qoutes from you. Next time try to remember what you post before telling a lie. You're also going to get banned if you don't lose the attitude, warning you before it happens. I made a statement how you being at an University doesn't add up and will NOT happen to 99% of people who go thinking they have the "gangsta curisma" to get by.

Sorry, I didn't get the relevance of the quotes. What did I lie about? Sorry if you think I have a bad attitude, it's just difficult to stay calm when like every person on the board is calling you an idiot, accusing you of lying, twisting your words etc....It seems like a double standard where people who have been here for a while can say what they like, but noobies with different opinions get slated for projecting a different outlook on things.

[MMM]

Originally Posted by killyoself

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Erm, do you think the Japanese can handle the English teaching jobs or work at the American Military base??? Those are the most common jobs for westeners. s-s-s-s-s-stop h-h-h-h-h-hatin

I think we are losing focus on this thread.

We can agree that it is certainly possible to get a job in Japan without a college degree.

We can also agree that most of the experienced posters here would not encourage just buying a plane ticket and showing up in Tokyo and expecting to find work.

The OP has given examples of how it can work, but at least one involved deceiving his employer...again, not an activity most veterans here would encourage.

[MMM]

Originally Posted by killyoself

Sorry, I didn't get the relevance of the quotes.

I think he is responding to your repeated notions that you are not "encouraging" people to come to Japan without a degree and find work. You are the one who started the thread, so it is hard to say "encouraging" isn't what you are doing, even if this thread is a response to the "Get a degree if you want to live in Japan" thread.

[killyoself]

Originally Posted by MMM

I think we are losing focus on this thread.

Thanks for intervening

Originally Posted by MMM

We can agree that it is certainly possible to get a job in Japan without a college degree.

Ok, i'm glad we straightened that up because beofre I made this thread I saw multiple posts stating and implying that you couldn't get a visa/job in Japan without a college degree. I'm glad you all acknowledge that you can.

Originally Posted by MMM

The OP has given examples of how it can work, but at least one involved deceiving his employer...again, not an activity most veterans here would encourage.

Sorry, at least one involved deceiving his employer?? Are you talking about my friend that works in Shinjuku? I don't think he deceived anyone, t obe honest I have no idea what's in his resume, what was said at the interview or his past experience. I was wring to say he blagged the job, it's just a word that we use when someone gets lucky you know.