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11-20-2009, 12:21 AM
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Oh yes, also there are many limitations to a spousal visa in Japan that makes it harder to get in some cases than a working visa. Thats the reason why so many married westerners in Japan have working visa status rather than spousal status. 
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11-20-2009, 12:34 AM
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"You cannot work on your initial visa, but you can apply for a document entitled "Permission to engage in an activity other than that permitted by the status of residence previously granted." This just means permission to work up to 4 hours per day, 28 hours per week, in order to help support your studies. During holidays, you may work up to 8 hours per day. However, this is intended to be supplemental to your savings, so you cannot declare this proposed income when applying for a student visa. Also, this activity is not meant to detract from your studies - so if your attendance begins to suffer as a result of working you may find your visa revoked. The immigration office does check your attendance while on the student visa, and the school is obliged to take a daily record of attendance. The relevant forms for application are usually available from your school. Some schools will make the application for you; most will just issue you with the documents that you need to take to the immigration office. Education Japan | Visas | Work Permission
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11-23-2009, 09:28 AM
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To be clear, the main priority for finding a base job was to have another sponsorship option to choose from. For the sake of example, if I don't like my student visa restrictions, I'd like to have the option to get married and use the spouse visa instead. If I can transfer the tourist visa to student visa without any problems, a job won't be important anymore, and I can wait and look for one later. And while I could always use extra money, I would just need a small job that would add extra pocket change, but wouldn't detract from my studies. Thankfully, I do have friends in Japan.. while I wouldn't bother them for handouts, they did tell me that if I move back there, they know nightclub promoters that let people volunteer for odd jobs (passing out flyers, cleanup, etc) for about $50 a night. Thanks again for the responses, this is the kind of help I was hoping for.
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Also want to know some stuff about moving to japan -
11-26-2009, 11:03 PM
(appolgiseing in advance for bad spelling dyslexia makes me suck as such things)
Hey Iv wanted to move to japan for as long as I can rember Im going to tokyo in feb to have a lok round get a genrall feel for the place and make 100% sure its what I want if all goes well which to be honest im pretty sure it will I plan on moving there around september or october next year I have a national diploma and and in my final year of uni so will have a ba honers degree by june so qualifications arn't a problem what Im really having trouble with is where to lok for a job Iv looked through agencies like jet but as they only offer a max of 3 years its not really what im looking for kinda want something more perminant yo9ou know just wondering if anyone can help me in my job search it would be great also iv had a look and im pretty sure that i dont but if im going to tokyo for a week i dont need to apoply for a visa do I any replys would be much appriecated sorry to the starter of the thread for hijacking your topic but didn't think it would be good to start another thread on this topic 
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11-27-2009, 12:49 AM
I have a national diploma and and in my final year of uni so will have a ba honers degree by june so qualifications arn't a problem
Can you speak Japanese to a relatively fluent level though? That will seriously affect what job you can get and whether or not you can live there. What Im really having trouble with is where to lok for a job Iv looked through agencies like jet but as they only offer a max of 3 years its not really what im looking for kinda want something more perminant yo9ou know It depends what sort of career you are looking for. To teach in Japan on a permanent basis you will need a genuine teacher's qualification; not just a TEFL certificate. Jet now offers up to 5 years. To get any other job, you again will need strong ~business~ japanese or else be experienced, gifted and/or lucky enough for a company to take you on. Just wondering if anyone can help me in my job search it would be great also iv had a look and im pretty sure that i dont but if im going to tokyo for a week i dont need to apoply for a visa do I You won't need a visa if you're only going for a week, but honestly, do you REALLY think a week long visit is long enough for you to make the decision to move your whole life to the other side of the world? Have you been to Japan before. Just FYI, I know dozens of people who lived there for a YEAR and still aren't sure if they'd settle there permanently. Not to burst your bubble or anything, but don't set yourself up for a dumb and expensive mistake. As for finding a Job, you can search on Language Jobs, Language Recruitment - Top Language Jobs and GaijinPot: Jobs, Apartments, and Information for living in Japan but be warned; the working visa issue is tricky. Most companies advertising for hire want employees already IN Japan, with a valid -working- visa. Some will sponsor you for the visa, and you can always ask, but some just don't want the hassle. The easiest way to find a job probably is from inside the country.
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11-27-2009, 02:25 AM
If you are a foreigner attending school in Japan, the school doesn't technically "sponsor" you. They merely provide a form to immigration which says you are enrolled there, and the terms of your enrollment. Getting such a visa is not difficult. Working while attending school is possible with a permit, and such a permit is no harder for a foreign student to get than it is for foreign students who wish to work in America or other countries.
Before taking the plunge and moving to Japan, you have to think about your situation objectively. What kind of work are you qualified to do? And how much will that pay in Japan? In most circumstances, the pay for the same or similar job will be more in America than in Japan. Without a degree, you'll be lucky to find a job in Japan which pays more than 1000 yen per hour, and these low-paying jobs will require a certain amount of proficiency in Japanese. If you are coming to Japan because of your girlfriend, that is something else to think about. It is very easy to get married in Japan, it takes less time than the wait for a hamburger at Tokyo McDonald's during lunch time. Getting married is one thing, however, getting a spouse visa is something else. As I said in a previous post, you will not qualify for a spouse visa unless your wife makes enough money to support the both of you. If she doesn't, then you'll have to have her family sponsor you (provide they can prove they have the income to support you). In any event, you will need to make enough money to support yourself and your wife, and handing out fliers for 5000 yen per night will scarcely pay for train, rent, and food for that day. If you don't have the skills, experience, or ability to get a decent paying job after you arrive, then you shouldn't come in the first place. You should wait until you have such skills, experience, or ability. Teaching English is usually the quickest way for a foreigner to get a decent paying job in Japan. It typically pays about 3000 yen per hour, which isn't spectacular, but will allow you to live in relative comfort. You won't find a job on a military base that pays as much unless you are a military retiree, or have a professional degree. In most cases, teaching English in Japan requires at least a 4 year degree, and 95% of foreign teachers have such a degree. You can get by the degree requirement by having 3 consecutive years experience as a teacher in your home country. You will need to provide proof of experience, by presenting tax returns or employment contracts. You can also teach without a degree if you have an TESOL, TEFL, or CELTA certification from a certified college. Unfortunately, most of these schools require that you have a degree before you can take these courses, but some make exceptions for those with excellent English ability and knowledge.
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11-27-2009, 09:50 AM
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I feel however that your dyslexia is going to cause you problems with English teaching jobs, including JET- many schools have on-the-spot grammar and writing tests at the interviews, and I'm afraid that anyone who makes a lot of spelling mistakes is probably going to be passed over. For other kinds of positions (finance, IT), you will need qualifications and experience in that field before you come to Japan.
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11-27-2009, 10:20 AM
Ah i see thanks guys Iv never really thought of dislexia as a hinderence but i guess it is i was kinda hoping to teach english speaking but aw man i wont give up on jet then infact Iv sent my application in this morning hopefully all will go well
I have not yet been to japan and maybe most people wouldn't think a week is long enough but iv constantly moved from place to place since I was 15 and left home and normally iv decided on moving to new places on a days visit i know its not much for some but for me i dont need lon to know if I feel comfertable some where as for the language I can speak with vary degrees of success I think what iv been lacking from learning it is full on expierence of the language and actually been able to talk to people
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11-27-2009, 11:23 PM
Even though you are teaching people to speak English, you are still expected to be able to write down example sentences accurately, be able to answer questions on spelling, and display a reasonable knowledge of the basics of English grammar, hence the writing/grammar tests. Anyway, good luck with your application.
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