I'm in Japan and was tricked. Please help

[Sangetsu]

Live and learn. No one here will be able to give you any real advice because I doubt anyone here has ever had the same experience. You're going to have to sort through this problem yourself. Going to the police is a waste of time, they may sympathize with your story, but that's all it is, a story, you can bet that if they ever found the woman, she would have a story too, and it would probably be quite a bit different from yours.

At least the restaurant let you leave without doing something like holding onto your ARC card (which they have been known to do). Pay them their money when you get it, and consider it a tuition payment for another lesson on life.

[MMM]

Originally Posted by Sangetsu

Live and learn. No one here will be able to give you any real advice because I doubt anyone here has ever had the same experience. You're going to have to sort through this problem yourself. Going to the police is a waste of time, they may sympathize with your story, but that's all it is, a story, you can bet that if they ever found the woman, she would have a story too, and it would probably be quite a bit different from yours.

At least the restaurant let you leave without doing something like holding onto your ARC card (which they have been known to do). Pay them their money when you get it, and consider it a tuition payment for another lesson on life.

Well put.

Dumping this debt could lead to a fast ticket home and no re-entry for 10 years to life.

[Kageboushi]

Originally Posted by MMM

Well put.

Dumping this debt could lead to a fast ticket home and no re-entry for 10 years to life.

I agree. Find a way to pay the restaurant.

All I meant earlier is that IF you don't can't find a way to settle the debt, don't just run. If you have a feeling that the restaurant might go to the police you should call the police first.

[dirtyroboto]

I hope you are not serious, because this would be about the dumbest thing he could try to pull. If they were to get the police involved he would be in a whole new level of trouble. The smartest thing for him to do would be to pay them back slowly or borrow money from a friend who trusts him.

But seriously, if the resturant ever thought they would see his money again they would have never let him leave. He also paid Y4000 which would cover most food bills at cost price and depending on the drinks they had that too.

The resturant were also aware of his situation as they served a meal for them and I am guessing that the biatch ordered the stuff in nihongo. I would say that they got what they could from him and let him go and lick his wounds.

People like you (quoted) do not understand real trouble; not here, nor your neck of the woods. People who will scare this guy by saying he will get deported or such are assholes who also do not understand the law, the police or the system.

In this case the law has not been involved, and if at anytime it does get involved then I suggest the guy contacts me for some advice on how to handle the situation.

I would suggest that the women "works" for the resturant and tricks punters into paying an over inflated bill a few times a week. Most likely gets a 30% cut of the mug.
I would also suggest this is why the resturant will not persue after getting its Y4000. Some you win some you loose.

This is why I recommend to let the action play out and see if the resturant really comes after you. I bet it won't.
And even if it does, they can not persue you for any more then the original bill (I hope you kept a copy), ie. being negligent in paying a non specific agreement is like farting in a toilet.

Point. Did they say when you must pay and what amount you must pay, did they say how?
This is not an agreement so you are not obliged to follow rules that do not exist.

To the OP...
You know you were a dick for picking up a person from a dating site. You were lucky you didn't wake up in the gutter with a sore arse, or stiches where your kidney should be.
Never do that shhh again!!!

[Chikavelli]

"consider it a tuition payment for another lesson on life."

Life can be hella lame.. consider that a lesson for sure! Good call man...

[MMM]

Originally Posted by dirtyroboto

I would suggest that the women "works" for the resturant and tricks punters into paying an over inflated bill a few times a week. Most likely gets a 30% cut of the mug.
I would also suggest this is why the resturant will not persue after getting its Y4000. Some you win some you loose.

How in the world would a restaurant make money serving expensive meals to people who can't pay them?

[Sinestra]

This whole situation is very confusing but nonetheless. Why did you trust someone whom you did not know so easily? Everywhere you go is full of con artiest of some sort. Just because you in Japan does not mean you should let your guard down. Did you ask for any material any references any proof that her business was legit?

[Sangetsu]

Originally Posted by dirtyroboto

But seriously, if the resturant ever thought they would see his money again they would have never let him leave. He also paid Y4000 which would cover most food bills at cost price and depending on the drinks they had that too.

The resturant were also aware of his situation as they served a meal for them and I am guessing that the biatch ordered the stuff in nihongo. I would say that they got what they could from him and let him go and lick his wounds.

People like you (quoted) do not understand real trouble; not here, nor your neck of the woods. People who will scare this guy by saying he will get deported or such are assholes who also do not understand the law, the police or the system.

In this case the law has not been involved, and if at anytime it does get involved then I suggest the guy contacts me for some advice on how to handle the situation.

I would suggest that the women "works" for the resturant and tricks punters into paying an over inflated bill a few times a week. Most likely gets a 30% cut of the mug.
I would also suggest this is why the resturant will not persue after getting its Y4000. Some you win some you loose.

This is why I recommend to let the action play out and see if the resturant really comes after you. I bet it won't.
And even if it does, they can not persue you for any more then the original bill (I hope you kept a copy), ie. being negligent in paying a non specific agreement is like farting in a toilet.

Point. Did they say when you must pay and what amount you must pay, did they say how?
This is not an agreement so you are not obliged to follow rules that do not exist.

To the OP...
You know you were a dick for picking up a person from a dating site. You were lucky you didn't wake up in the gutter with a sore arse, or stiches where your kidney should be.
Never do that shhh again!!!

This trick happens commonly even to Japanese. Many a man has gone on a date and found himself suddenly alone when the check comes. Some of the bills for these meals can be $500 or more, and if the man finds he is short of cash, he may end up leaving without his watch, briefcase, and whatever else the restaurant wants to hold onto until they get their money.

It's not far-fetched to say that the woman might be working for the restaurant, but even if she was, the OP would never be able to prove it.

The OP has no recourse because he is a foreigner, and failure to pay a restaurant bill is a crime. Foreigners who commit crimes of any kind are not tolerated. It's less expensive to deport someone than it is to prosecute them in court.

[MMM]

Originally Posted by Sangetsu

It's not far-fetched to say that the woman might be working for the restaurant, but even if she was, the OP would never be able to prove it.

Why is it not far-fetched to say this? If this is true she picked a pretty crappy mark. The kid has no cash.

[RickOShay]

Originally Posted by dirtyroboto

But seriously, if the resturant ever thought they would see his money again they would have never let him leave. He also paid Y4000 which would cover most food bills at cost price and depending on the drinks they had that too.

The resturant were also aware of his situation as they served a meal for them and I am guessing that the biatch ordered the stuff in nihongo. I would say that they got what they could from him and let him go and lick his wounds.

People like you (quoted) do not understand real trouble; not here, nor your neck of the woods. People who will scare this guy by saying he will get deported or such are assholes who also do not understand the law, the police or the system.

In this case the law has not been involved, and if at anytime it does get involved then I suggest the guy contacts me for some advice on how to handle the situation.

I would suggest that the women "works" for the resturant and tricks punters into paying an over inflated bill a few times a week. Most likely gets a 30% cut of the mug.
I would also suggest this is why the resturant will not persue after getting its Y4000. Some you win some you loose.

This is why I recommend to let the action play out and see if the resturant really comes after you. I bet it won't.
And even if it does, they can not persue you for any more then the original bill (I hope you kept a copy), ie. being negligent in paying a non specific agreement is like farting in a toilet.

Point. Did they say when you must pay and what amount you must pay, did they say how?
This is not an agreement so you are not obliged to follow rules that do not exist.

To the OP...
You know you were a dick for picking up a person from a dating site. You were lucky you didn't wake up in the gutter with a sore arse, or stiches where your kidney should be.
Never do that shhh again!!!

I think it is you that does not understand the law or the police in this country. Not paying his bill at the restaurant is a crime. Is it so hard to believe that the owners sympathize with what happened to him, and are being nice and giving him a chance to pay back the bill. If they have information about him, and he chooses to skip out on the rest of the bill they very well could call the police, and then he most definitely would be up shit creek without a paddle.

How can you even think you are giving good advice to him? You are telling him to act like an ass to the people (owners) who where nice to him and try to skip out on payment (ie break the law), and test their patience to see whether or not they decide to involve the police, and if they do, essentially screw him pretty good in the process. I have lived in Japan for 6 years, I respect people, the law and their customs. And surprise! I have never had any trouble. I don't know how long you have been here or how you choose to live, but if you were to start taking your own advice on such matters I would imagine you would not be living here for much longer.