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COE/Visa Situation - 03-27-2010, 02:37 PM

Hello everyone,

I'm in a bit of a pickle here and advice from you experts would really help .

Basically, I came to Japan on a tourist visia with a job lined up (had already submitted COE paperwork) and would have received the COE soon after I arrived. However, after I arrived I found a better job opportunity, so I politely informed the original job that I found employment elsewhere and they went again and canceled the COE process. At the beginning of March, I went with a representative of my new company to immigration to apply for another COE and it all went smoothly. However.....it's been just about 3 and a half weeks since applying for the COE and I have yet to hear anything back yet. Considering that my "Temp. Visitor" status expires on April 20th, I need to start preparing for the worst case scenario: that the COE doesn't come by then. I've done a lot of research yet can't seem to find a straight answer anywhere.

So, what do you all think I should do? Go to immigration and beg for an extension? If so, what excuse should I give? Should I call them for the status? Should I do the Korea run? If so how long? And also, what should I say to the immigration officer when I come back? I've heard recently that some people are getting denied the second 90 day visa after going abroad for a few days, so I'm a bit worried.

Anyway, yea, I have just about 3 weeks to either receive the COE or face expiration..

Any advice would really help. Thank you!
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03-27-2010, 02:47 PM

Does MOFA know you are in Japan?


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03-27-2010, 03:05 PM

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Does MOFA know you are in Japan?
To be honest, I'm not sure....

I simply did what I was instructed to do. That was go with my company representative to the immigration ward in Shinagawa, apply for my COE, and then just wait.

Don't know if that has anything to do with MOFA or not...
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03-27-2010, 11:04 PM

COE is released by MOFA, and they will not release it until you are out of the country. That7s what they did to me.


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COE is released by MOFA, and they will not release it until you are out of the country. That7s what they did to me.
What the heck? I've never heard of that before. In fact, there's an area on the application to put where you want the COE sent to while in Japan. Plenty of people get their COE in Japan.
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03-28-2010, 12:35 PM

As has come up on another thread, Tsuwabuki is convinced that it is not possible to change from a tourist permit to working visa while in Japan, while I know people who have done exactly that. Even if Immigration would not give Tsuwabuki his/her COE in Japan, that does not mean they treat all people equally. In fact they are well-known for their "case by case" approach to people applying for visas.
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03-28-2010, 01:25 PM

It can take several weeks for a COE to be processed. In my case it took about 5 weeks. Once you get your COE, it takes a couple days to get the work visa processed.

You cannot get an extension for a temporary visitor (tourist) visa. If your COE is not completed in time, you will have no choice but to leave the country, if you overstay your visa by so much as one day, you face the likely possibility of not being granted another visa for several years.

Running to Korea will probably work if you are from America, Canada, the UK, or Australia. If you are from the Philippines or some other part of Asia, they probably won't let you back in for at least a few months.
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It can take several weeks for a COE to be processed. In my case it took about 5 weeks. Once you get your COE, it takes a couple days to get the work visa processed.

You cannot get an extension for a temporary visitor (tourist) visa. If your COE is not completed in time, you will have no choice but to leave the country, if you overstay your visa by so much as one day, you face the likely possibility of not being granted another visa for several years.

Running to Korea will probably work if you are from America, Canada, the UK, or Australia. If you are from the Philippines or some other part of Asia, they probably won't let you back in for at least a few months.
Thats reassuring, as I'm American. So, what would you say the bare minimum safe stay in Korea would be? 2, 3 days? Also, any idea what questions I should expect when coming back and how I should answer?
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03-28-2010, 02:46 PM

I am convinced, yes. They told me they would not send the COE until I gave them date I was leaving Japan as a tourist. They then sent the COE to my company, believing I was either about to leave or had already left. My company then gave me the COE, and I exited the country around the date I said I would leave, COE in hand, spent one day only in Korea, got my visa, and returned.

It was an easy and unstressful process.

MOFA does the COE. MOJ, immigration, does not. Yes, you can apply at immigration, but that is not who releases the COE. So saying what immigration will and will not do in regards to a COE is not correct.

MOFA and MOJ are different entities.


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Thats reassuring, as I'm American. So, what would you say the bare minimum safe stay in Korea would be? 2, 3 days? Also, any idea what questions I should expect when coming back and how I should answer?
I can`t really give you a current answer for this... But I would say that in the past a 2 or 3 day trip would definitely have been enough.

Back long long ago, when I made a visa refresh trip to Korea, it was a common enough practice that I was asked both at entry into Korea and upon re-entry into Japan if I had been making the trip in order to get my COE/change visa status. There was no suggestion that it was something bad, and the feeling was that it was very common.

In the past you DID indeed need to be outside of Japan in order to get it. In recent years I have been hearing more and more of people who are able to apply while in Japan, get the COE, and have a visa within weeks without ever stepping outside the country that I believe things may have changed.

But, having no experience with the process myself - I really do not know.


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