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Questions about Japan's health business - 04-16-2010, 08:06 PM

Hello, I've known this forum for a long time but never registered, but now I have a question that only you guys can answer. I already used the search function but my situation is quite special, so I couldn't find any answers.

I'm a brazilian-african (what we call "mulatos": something between black and white) transexual person, already assumed and I'm pretty enough to easily pass.

I'm studying nursing into a good university, have the money to go for a postgraduate education, I'm fluent at english and have the wealth to study whatever else I need.

The problem is: I met another transexual person, with an awesome curriculum, but can't get a job here thanks to homofobia. She's going to move to France and try her luck there.
And I don't plan staying into this crappy country, anyway.

Here's my question: would I be succesfull as a nurse (or even higher ranked professional) in Japan? I don't think that being a transexual would be a problem since I'll get the sex reassigment surgery soon, and change my documents.

I'm concerned because I'm brazilian (I've heard they have some kind of xenophonia against brazilians) AND I'm "black", although cute.

I want to know now if it's possible, so I would restart learning japanese to become fluent at their language in time.
If it isn't possible, then I would study french and travel to France, Canada, USA or whatever, just want to get the hell outta here. Japan's just my first choice.

Thanks for reading.
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04-16-2010, 09:49 PM

Basically,Japan doesn't accept foreigners as nurse.Although there is a Medical Services Visa.

Only Filipino and Indonesian can be accepted as a nurse.There are Economic Partnership Agreement between Japan and that two countries.
They should get training and pass the exam in Japan.This program started recently.

Only 3 foreigners passed the last exam. 251 of them couldn't pass.On the other hand,90% of Japanese passed.It is difficult for foreigners to pass the exam in Japanese.

If you have already Japanese permanent residency(like zainichi Korean or Chinese),you can be nurse in Japan.But you should pass the exam too.
Japanese Brazilian can get visa easily.On the other hand, normal Brazilian can't get Japanese visa with which they can work in Japan easily.

I'm sure you don't know any Brazilian(mulato or not,transexual or not) working as a nurse in Japan.I(native Japanese) don't know too.

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04-17-2010, 12:26 AM

Your issue is not that you are transexual or that you are black, it is as above that until now, Japan has only ever accepted a handful of foreign nurses.

Currently there is a programme to bring over Indonesian and Filipino nurses to work in geriatric care, with the condition that they have to pass the Japanese registration exam within 2 or 3 years, or go back to their home countries. As above, they reported in the news recently that of over 200 nurses, only 3 had passed the exam after more than a year. Their nursing skills are fine, but as the experience of the Asian nurses shows, it is very hard to reach that level of Japanese reading and writing ability, even if you live here.

Unless your Japanese language skills are similar to a native Japanese speaker's (this usually takes many years of study), I am afraid that your goal of becoming a nurse here is unrealistic. Even if your Japanese was that good, so far they are only allowing nurses in on special programmes from particular countries as above, and Brazil isn't one of them.

I am sure you will find a country where your skills are appreciated, so good luck.
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04-17-2010, 08:00 AM

I think allhailhata and sarasi have answered your questions regarding to being a nurse in Japan, so I would like to give you a few advice if you want to come to Canada.

I would say, it's a lot easier for you to be a nurse in Canada than in Japan, except that I don't know if nursing school accepts international students. (I know medical school does not accept international students at all, and law school as well? I am a computer science student so I never care about this) If you can get your way to come to Canada, you can go to either nursing school in universities, or colleges which provide nursing program (such as St Lawrence College in Kingston, or... sorry please find it yourself... I have a friend who studies nursing in St Lawrence now, that's why I know it). Canada is in shortage of nurses, therefore I think Canada welcomes you more than Japan does (totally no offense, I mean it).

Most Canadians are friendly and open-minded. You know what, same-sex marriage is even granted and recognized in Canada. So you will be more comfortable living in here.

Good luck and all the best.

It seems that my question in the other thread is ignored or no one can answer it for me, I will ask it here again. How's the situation about medical computing in Japan? Is there any university doing research and providing undergraduate/postgraduate study on medical computing and biotechnology? And is there any company developing this? (I know Toshiba medical is doing something related but I don't think its base is in Japan)

Medical computing is a newly developed science which includes computer-assisted surgery, medical image processing and clinical used software... etc.

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It seems that my question in the other thread is ignored or no one can answer it for me, I will ask it here again. How's the situation about medical computing in Japan? Is there any university doing research and providing undergraduate/postgraduate study on medical computing and biotechnology? And is there any company developing this? (I know Toshiba medical is doing something related but I don't think its base is in Japan)

Medical computing is a newly developed science which includes computer-assisted surgery, medical image processing and clinical used software... etc.
こんにちは。日本語がお上手なようなので日本語で返信 します。

私は専門家ではないので詳しいことはわかりません。カ ナダでも一般の人は、Medical computingに詳しくないですよね?

日本でも医療機器や医療関係ソフトの研究開発は行われ ています。学会もいろいろあるようです。しかし、comput er-assisted surgery, medical image processing and clinical used softwareの全てを統一して扱っている学会、大学や大学院� ��研究科があるかは、私にはわかりません。

関係のありそうな学会のホームページへのリンクを貼っ ておきます。大学の先生だけでなく、企業も会員になっ ています。英語のページを選びました。
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Japan Society of Computer Aided Surgery Home Page
JAMIT Annual Meeting 2010 | 日本医用画像工学会

こんなイベントも毎年、日本であるようです。
ITEM in JRC 2010
島津製作所によるレポート
JRC2010
Toshiba medicalによるレポート
http://www.toshiba-medical.co.jp/tmd...ort/index.html

島津製作所も、computer-assisted surgery, medical image processing and clinical used softwareを扱っているようですね。

これ以上はわかりません。私の文章でわからないとこが あったら遠慮せずに教えてください。多少の助けになれ ば嬉しいです。
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04-20-2010, 06:12 AM

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こんにちは。日本語がお上手なようなので日本語で返信 します。

私は専門家ではないので詳しいことはわかりません。カ ナダでも一般の人は、Medical computingに詳しくないですよね?

日本でも医療機器や医療関係ソフトの研究開発は行われ ています。学会もいろいろあるようです。しかし、comput er-assisted surgery, medical image processing and clinical used softwareの全てを統一して扱っている学会、大学や大学院� ��研究科があるかは、私にはわかりません。

関係のありそうな学会のホームページへのリンクを貼っ ておきます。大学の先生だけでなく、企業も会員になっ ています。英語のページを選びました。
彼らにメールで聞けば、あなたは、もっと詳しいことを 教えてもらえるかも知れません。
Japan Society of Computer Aided Surgery Home Page
JAMIT Annual Meeting 2010 | 日本医用画像工学会

こんなイベントも毎年、日本であるようです。
ITEM in JRC 2010
島津製作所によるレポート
JRC2010
Toshiba medicalによるレポート
http://www.toshiba-medical.co.jp/tmd...ort/index.html

島津製作所も、computer-assisted surgery, medical image processing and clinical used softwareを扱っているようですね。

これ以上はわかりません。私の文章でわからないとこが あったら遠慮せずに教えてください。多少の助けになれ ば嬉しいです。
サイトを探してくださってほんとうにありがとうござい ます!とても有用な情報です。

日本にもmedical computingの学会がありますか。そういうなら研究も仕事も ありそうですね。外国と交流ができるため英語力が必要 みたいですが、もし外国人は日本に行ってそれを研究し たく、あるいは働きたいなら、どれほどの日本語力が必 要ですかな......

一番興味があるのは医用画像です。わたしはもっと調べ ようかな。

(そうです。一般のカナダ人もmedical computingにおけることがわかりません。かなり新しい専門 です。)
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04-26-2010, 08:12 PM

Sorry for answering so late.
Then if it's impossible, what's the most common job for gaijins who has no japanese lineage, wife or residency?
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Sorry for answering so late.
Then if it's impossible, what's the most common job for gaijins who has no japanese lineage, wife or residency?
Teaching English is the most common job. Unfortunately for you, it's unlikely for you to be sponsored because you're from Brazil - a country whose native language is Portuguese and not English.

Come to Canada! We're always welcoming new immigrants and we need nurses! If you move to downtown Vancouver, it's pretty much like living in Japan anyways.
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04-27-2010, 01:34 PM

spicytuna is correct- for unskilled foreigners (although of course there are skilled teachers here as well), English teaching is by far the most common job, however it is more or less restricted to native speakers.

Other fields which have a lot of foreign workers are IT and finance, but those jobs require previous experience as well as good Japanese skills.

There are also a lot of foreign bar hostesses here, but a large number of those are here illegally.

Japan is not a country of immigrants like Brazil, the US or Australia for example, therefore it's not that easy to come here to work unless you're a native English speaker with a degree.
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