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02-11-2011, 06:33 PM
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That's just one example of why it'd be a bad idea for a beginner. Not to mention that translation is an art, not a science, some figures of speech and colloquialisms - even everyday words - have no equiviliant in another language, so the translator has to find the nearest/closet match, in which case the subtitles are nothing alike the audio. I think it's great to pick up the odd word. Like a character on Bleach kept repeating "Hage" and I could pick up it meant 'bald', but even then I didn't learn it was actually a very offensive insult until reading on a recent thread so. So if I was going solely by the anime and I innocently called someone 'bald', I could probably be insulting them greatly. It's only real purpose is with intermediate and above level speakers, to test their knowledge. Its such a flawed method of learning for beginners I could rant about it all day . . . |
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02-11-2011, 06:43 PM
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02-12-2011, 02:15 AM
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the words.(like you said) But at least she or he could help. |
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02-12-2011, 02:34 AM
You know "RobinMask" you must be like extremely smart!!!!
But just today I learned in SS(social studies) that there is a "thing" you can go through and learn more about the culture you will soon go to. I can't remember the name of what it was. Robin, I just wanted to know what was your best subject in all the grades up to fourth grade? Mine is spelling. I promise you in my entire life I have NEVER EVER gotten below an A in spelling. |
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02-12-2011, 02:39 AM
What on Earth is katakana & hiragana?!
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02-12-2011, 11:08 AM
Japanese characters are split into 3 groups: Kanji, Katakana & Hiragana. Katakana & Hiragana are used for foreign words etc. & words that have no Kanji (of which their are over 2000 to learn). For living in Japan, I'd say it was compulsory to learn a number of the characters, as it will make everyday life easier
I now wait for somebody to answer more fully. I'll give it 1 hour An Cafe, Vidoll, Versailles, Dir En Grey, Deathgaze, the GazettE, alice nine., UVERworld, Kiryu , YUI, AKB48, Buono!, Berryz Koubou, C-ute, S/mileage, Morning Musume, Zoro, Lolita23Q, Visual Kei, Oshare Kei, J-Rock, J-Pop, Idol groups FTW (≧∀≦) |
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02-12-2011, 12:52 PM
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Ah, that sounds quite interesting. Have you considered a student-exchange programme too? I'm not sure of the details, but you'd be able to spend a little time with a Japanese family and attend a Japanese school, I think sometimes in return a Japanese student will visit your home too, so on return you'd have some extra contact with the Japanese culture via a fellow student. Good for language practise though. You could ask your school for details, or perhaps a fellow member might be able to give sites or information about details To be honest I don't know what the grades are Here our schooling system is different . . . is fourth grade about age eight? Our "year four" is our fifth year of schooling, and the kids in that year/grade are around 8-9. I feel so old, I can't remember that far back XD I think my best subjects were maths and religious education, actually. Congratulations on doing so well in spelling too, that's awesome Spelling and English are very important subjects, so they'll be very useful to you in life. Quote:
Katakana and Hiragana (the kanas) are the two main Japanese alphabets. The Katakana are what they mainly use to write foriegn words, or any 'borrowed' words from foriegn languages, so in menus things like 'coffee' and 'cake' will probably be written in Katakana. Hiragana is used for grammatical markers, so things like 'and' or 'to', and they are also used to tell you when a word is past/present tense and things like that - it's also used to tell you how a kanji is said, usually written small over the top. Kanji are symbols that represent a word as a whole. Chinese characters really. It's useful to learn a few, like 'push' and 'pull' for doors, or 'stop' for the road signs, that kind of thing . . . there's around forty 'letters' in each alphabet (probably take you a week or two to learn each), and like Jambo said around 2000 or more kanji, but I think you just need around 1700 to be 'fluent' in reading. Kanji take absolutely ages to learn, so I'd say start with speaking the language and learning the 'kana', then move onto kanji when you feel confident. |
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02-14-2011, 10:47 PM
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DO NOT watch anime with subtitles. Watch it without subtitles. If you depend on subtitles you will never learn. Trust me. Browse Japanese websites (without translations...just use a dictionary to look up words) Read Japanese books (Again, no translations, use a dictionary) Just do whatever it is that you do in English...now do it in Japanese instead. |
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02-15-2011, 02:02 AM
Thanks alot! All of you! But, how do you know which is japanese or chinese?
Like some of them look like boxes and some of them look like gibberish. I know this might not make sence but this is an example. like this is chinese"#" and this is japanese"^" but some times "on the internet it looks like boxes." Which is which? (or both?) |
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