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10-16-2009, 12:52 AM

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And as for the whole "STD's grow under the foreskin, bacteria under fingernails" I'm in complete agreement with the whole bacteria part. But I thought AIDs and HIV were infections, not bacteria. Forgive me if my A-levels in Biology were completely false, but I thought they were two completely different things?
In a study done in Africa, it was proven that AIDS spreads more readily in a population that is not circumcised. If a man does not bathe, the foreskin offers a location to harbor blood or other infectious tissue from one partner and to transfer it to the next.
Somewhere along the line this information has been interpreted and spread as meaning that not being circumcised is dangerous.
However it has very little meaning outside of cultures where men don`t bother cleaning themselves between sex with multiple partners. (Eww...)

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I don`t put a space between them. Check the number of characters. It just *looks* that way because the font you are using is treating ` differently than it treats '.
It`s a backtick/backquote, and is a typing habit I picked up a very very long time ago. And no, I have no plans to change it. And you are the second person in 15 years to make a comment on it.


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10-16-2009, 08:38 PM

ah circumcision, to me its not really a big deal if you're uncircumcised or not. As long as you clean down there regularly
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7. Proper blood flow. The foreskin contains several feet of blood vessels, including the frenular artery and branches of the dorsal artery. The loss of this rich vascularization interrupts normal blood flow to the shaft and glans of the penis, damaging the natural function of the penis and altering its development [1].

8. Immunological defense. The soft mucosa of the inner foreskin produces plasma cells, which secrete immunoglobulin antibodies, and antibacterial and antiviral proteins [7, 14], such as the pathogen-killing enzyme called lysozyme [15 and Blue_ArrowD096.gif (140 bytes)see explanation]. All of the human mucosa (the linings of the mouth, eyelids, vagina, foreskin and anus) are the body's first line of defense against disease. This benefit of the foreskin could be one possible explanation why intact men are at lower risk of chlamydia and other sexually transmitted diseases [16-21].

9. Langerhans cells. These specialized epithelial cells are a component of the immune system and may play a role in protecting the penis from sexually transmitted infections such as HIV (AIDS) [Blue_ArrowD096.gif (140 bytes)see explanation and 14-16, 18].

10. Proper lymph flow. The foreskin contains lymphatic vessels, which are necessary for proper lymph flow and immunological functioning.

The Foreskin Advantage: Benefits Enjoyed by Males who are Intact (not circumcised)


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Intact
Virtually all: Chinese, Japanese, North Koreans, Vietnamese, Laotians, Cambodians, Burmese, Thais
Hindu, Sikh, Parsee and Christian Indians
Scandinavians
Zulus, Shona, certain other African nations
most Melanesian and some Western Polynesian (Rennell, Bellona) peoples,

The great majority of: Europeans
men of the former Soviet Union
Central and South Americans
New Zealand Maori
Younger men of Britain and the Commonwealth, especially New Zealand and Australia

About half of: Malaysians (Hindu and Christian Tamils, Chinese and Orang Asli)

A significant minority of:
Americans, especially younger, Hispanic, and in the South West
Bangladeshis (20% are Hindu)




Cut
About 500,000,000 Muslims
More than 100,000,000 USAmericans
About 25,000,000 Filipini
Some tens of millions of older men of Britain
and the Commonwealth
Some tens of millions of African tribesmen
About 14,000,000 South Koreans
7,000,000 Jews
Some hundreds of thousands of Central and Eastern Polynesians
(Samoa, Tahiti, Tonga, Niue, Tokelau)
and Melanesians (Fiji, Vanuatu, parts of Solomon Islands and small parts of PNG)
Some thousands of aboriginal Australians,
mainly in the north and west


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11-29-2009, 06:16 AM

I totally agree with what Nyorin's post says.

I'm actually snipped and the thought of not being done does sound problematic.

Sex feels great, my partner loves it, so I'm not complaining


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I totally agree with what Nyorin's post says.

I'm actually snipped and the thought of not being done does sound problematic.

Sex feels great, my partner loves it, so I'm not complaining
You don't bathe yourself?

That was only for Africa, because of hygienic problems. Studies in different countries are quite different if you ask me.



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i will list complication news


Initiate's death blamed on dehydration

An initiate had died in Butterworth, in the Eastern Cape, apparently from dehydration, the police said on Thursday.

Captain Jackson Manatha said that 19-year-old Sonke Foca "is alleged to have dehydrated in his traditional hut on Wednesday".

"It is alleged that the deceased was circumcised by a professional traditional doctor (ingcibi) on Saturday," he said.

He added that a nurse had called an ambulance after she had noticed that he was very weak, but upon its arrival, Foca was already dead.

News - General: Initiate's death blamed on dehydration



Another E Cape circumcision death

The Eastern Cape has recorded its second death of the summer circumcision season, the province's health department said on Wednesday.

The 19-year-old youth died on Wednesday morning at an illegal intiation school in the Butterworth area of Transkei, spokesman Sizwe Kupelo said.

The cause of death was not known yet.

The school had been closed down by health authorities.

Another 19-year-old died of dehydration in the same area earlier this month.

Kupelo said the department would send a team to the area to close down other illegal schools.

News - Health: Another E Cape circumcision death


Circumcising boys for religious reasons 'could breach Human Rights Act'

Circumcising boys for religious reasons is akin to pulling out their fingernails and could be a breach of the Human Rights Act, an academic has warned.

By Rebecca Smith, Medical Editor

Dr David Shaw, lecturer in ethics at Glasgow University, argues that circumcising boys for no medical reason is unethical.

He wrote in the journal Clinical Ethics that any doctor who does perform circumcision without a medical reason could be guilty of negligence and in breach of the Human Rights Act as the child cannot consent to the operation and it can be argued it is not in their best interests.

Circumcising boys for religious reasons 'could breach Human Rights Act' - Telegraph




Circumcision 'left boys in agony'

A doctor offering £150 [$US230] circumcisions at his private clinic in Essex left young boys in agonising pain, a disciplinary panel has heard.

BBC NEWS | UK | England | Essex | Circumcision 'left boys in agony'


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11-29-2009, 06:48 PM

Circumcision is about as stupid as cutting your dick off.

Africans are going to get aids regardless of if they have half a penis or a full one; it's the African Way to mess shit up.

It's a stupid religous thing, not any smarter than refusing to eat pork. It's out dated, and any civilized community will not chop half their dicks off.


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CLAIMS OF REASONS FOR CIRCUMCISION IN THE USA (history):
1832: prevents nocturnal emissions
1845: prevents masturbation
1855: prevents syphilis
1865: cures epilepsy
1870: cures epilepsy
1870: prevents spinal paralysis
1871: Jews are immune to masturbation
1873: cures bed wetting
1875: cures curvature of the spine
1875: cures paralysis of the bladder
1875: cures clubfoot
1879: cures nocturnal seminal emissions
1879: curse abdominal neuralgia
1881: cures eye problems
1886: prevents crossed eyes
1888: prevents masturbating
1890: cures blindness
1890: cures deafness
1890: cures dumbness
1891: "foreskin constitutes a harbor for filth"
1891: "foreskin is a constant source of irritation"
1891: conduces to masturbation
1891: adds to the difficulties of sexual continence
1894: circumcising Blacks prevents them from raping White women
1894: cures urinary incontinence
1894: cures rectal incontinence
1900: needed to desensitize the penis
1901: needed to desensitize the penis
1902: foreskin causes epilepsy
1914: Dr. Abraham L Wolbarst demands compulsory circumcision
1914: prevents tuberculosis
1926: prevents penile cancer.
1930: Dr. Norton Henry Bare claims that he has cured a boy of epilepsy by circumcising him
1932: prevents penile cancer
1935: promotes chastity
1941: blunts sexual sensitivity
1941: foreskin must be forcibly retracted and scrubbed daily
1942: prevents prostate cancer
1949: prevents venereal disease
1949: prevents cancer of the tongue
1949: elimination of circumcisions in the United Kingdom
1951: Abraham Ravich invents the falsehood that circumcision prevents cervical cancer in women.
1953: creates immunity to all mental illness
1954: prevents cervical cancer in women
1969: cures masturbation
1969: cures nervousness
1971: prevents cancer of the bladder
1971: prevents cancer of the rectum
1973: "all who disagree with circumcision are mentally ill"
1985: prevents urinary tract infections
1986: prevents AIDS
1988: prevents strept throat
1989: Edgar J. Schoen declares circumcision is necessary
1991: Edgar J. Schoen tries and fails to convince European countries to institute mass circumcision.
1991: Aaron J. Fink declares mass circumcision is necessary to prevent sand from getting under soldiers' foreskins.
1993: Gerald N. Weiss declares that Langerhands cells in the foreskin lead to HIV infection.
1997: Edgar J. Schoen tries and fails once again to convince European countries to institute mass circumcision.
2003: Edgar J. Schoen steps up pressure on American Academy of Pediatrics to reverse its policy on circumcision, claiming that circumcision prevents AIDS.


More absurdly claimed foreskin related illnesses:
alcoholism
arthritic hips
asthma
balanitis
boils
chicken pox
epididymitis
gallstones
gout
headaches
hernia
HPV
hydrocephaly
hydrocoele
hypertension
insanity
kidney disease
kleptomaina
leprosy
moral depravity
paraphimosis
plague
posthitis
rectal prolapse
rheumatism
schistosoma
spinal curvature
stomach infection

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CLAIMS OF REASONS FOR CIRCUMCISION IN THE USA (history):
1845: prevents masturbation


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