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02-06-2010, 01:38 AM
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Just because we can physically have children does not mean we should. Do you know that recently a Chinese girl gave birth at the age of 9? Obviously she is quite capable physically, it's all very natural as you suggested, but do you think she has the emotional tools to care for a baby? Most girls have started their periods by the age of 13, and you honestly think that also means they should start having sex then too, because their sex organs "need to be exercised"? Good grief, words fail me. 
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02-06-2010, 01:50 AM
we've become too soft if "we need emotional tools to deal with sex".. it's just the insertion and reinsertion of the penis into the vagina until sperm is injected into the vagina.. i wonder what's so traumatizing about that
and my point was that people should have to learn how to be parents through failed experiences. yes, i think once you start developing an urge for sex you should have sex.. all this abstinence crap only breeds repression.. and class, anyone know what repression breeds?.. anyone? oh yes, johnny- "Repression breeds ..uhmm breeds perversion." good answer. i just love how whenever someone is sexually implicit, everyone uses the same phrase "Pervert!" or "you're so perverted" etc. in fact it is the other way around   IamKira
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02-06-2010, 05:42 AM
kira, you are essentially advovating for sex between preteens, and there is no way I can get behind that. Just because a body is physically capable to have intercourse at 11 or 12 doesn't mean that mentally the person is there.
Abstinence does not mean repression. There are other ways to satisfy biological desires without involving another person.
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02-06-2010, 07:58 AM
my point was that by putting so much emphasis on sex and how it's bad and evil and by protecting teens from it and shooing them away from it, we only make to give sex a big deal.. if we decentralize the notion of sex and it's importance, it won't be such a major emotional issue for people.. it will simply be the process of reproducing.
and why should we have to satisfy our desires without another person?... that is the reason why we have those desires.. is so that we'll have sex with eachother. a person should have sex when they start having the desire for it. IamKira
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02-06-2010, 08:51 AM
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Masturbation is also natural. You say yourself that sex should be thought of as "the process of reproducing". If we think of it as such, you are saying that people far too young and immature to properly care for a child should be reproducing. I don`t really think that is what you mean, but it definitely sounds like that. In the distant distant past, I`m sure that if a couple at 10 or 12 had a baby and were unable to care for it... the baby would simply die. A way of reducing the "stupid enough to have a baby at that age" gene. But the modern world doesn`t really work that way, and you end up with children in bad situations with just enough support to live - but not necessarily enough to grow into mature participants in society. The sense of mystique and taboo about sex needs to go - I agree. But in it`s place there needs to be proper education, support, and acceptance of other ways to take care of those urges before you`re old enough to properly take care of the potential result. ETA; I had my period at 8, and had interest in sexual stuff at 9 or 10. But that most definitely doesn`t mean I would have been mature enough to handle the realities and results of such.
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02-06-2010, 10:37 AM
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Sex will always be a mojor emotional issue for people just by the nature of what it is. Sex has always been a big deal, and that isn't going to change anytime soon. Kira, you aren't addressing my point. Girls are able to get pregnant at the age of 11 or 12. Does that mean they are mentally ready to enter into sexual relationships? Of course not. Thousands of years ago when we only lived to the age of 20 that made sense, but now that we live well into our 70s there is no reason to enter adulthood prematurely. Socially and mentally people are children for longer than our ancestors. However, our bodies are ready for adulthood before our brains are. Children are not ready for the responsibilities, heartache and emotions that come with sexual relationships. Therefore self-gratification is the best outlet until maturity is achieved.
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02-06-2010, 10:47 AM
well, i believe you are mistaken when you talk about it being a emotional ordeal,.. to help prove my point i am going to ask a general question
what if you grew up in a society where there were only kids your age... there is abundant food supply etc. but everyone has to figure stuff out via experience. there are no adults telling everyone how the world works... you still get sexual desires at the same general age that you did in your own life... but, there has never been anyone to tell you why you get them, if there is something wrong with them, or that you shouldn't act on them. would you feel bad about having sex at the age of thirteen?... i can tell you the answer to that now.. no,.. the answer comes because you wouldn't be able to tell how old you were at any given time. you would be left to natures clock. so, basically, would you feel emotional turbulence over sex if you had been raised by wolves you would act on natural impulses ... and i would find it disturbing if someone were to try to convince me that nature does not cut it; that we need religious or governmental institutions to tell us our behavioral traits you know what happens when humans think they can do better than nature?... we get drugs that make diseases stronger... pesticides that make pests more tolerant.. in the end we get Jurassic park IamKira
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02-06-2010, 10:54 AM
you know what... i have just decided that i am going to sit down with my son or daughter when she/ he is about the age of 13 and make sure they know it is ok for them to mate. in fact, i will encourage them to find someone and seduce them early on
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