What is your opinion on and older and younger person getting married?

[kokunin]

Originally Posted by Thunda

For looks. Inside, how do you know? You don't know.


As people realize how useless the most of the things they do, or what have they done, they all turn simple.

That is why old men don't wear fancy clothes. That's why they can live together for 50 years. That's why people in their twenties get rid of their styles.

I realized you are right. Take a look at a guy who wears a simple black shirt. He cuts himself, kills animals.
Look at a poser metalhead. With his skateboard, his girlfriend, his hair. Or emos. They are simple.

what is an emo? I keep hearing it and have never even seen it...

[Thunda]

Originally Posted by kokunin

Humans are really simple beings. they can think up the MOST complex contructions...but you must drink water, and eat edible (usuallly sugar rich i.e.: bread, rice, yams, potatoes, vegetation, with a heathy supply of meat), you must sleep, and you must excrete waste, and you must die.


So you tell me, what is complex about humans?

You mix materialism and spiritualism.
It is not the same. I think, God created us in humans body, to be equal.
I could tell many examples.
Our goal, is to be mentally and spiritually evolve, as much as we can.
While several hundred, or thousand years ago staying alive was a problem, now concentrating on our real "mission" is hard, because all adverts and materialistic things create a Fog in front of our eyes.
Although, there are different lifestyles.
Believe it or not, the harder your life is, the more you realize of this truth.
Intelligence is relative. That is why there are things we have to develop.
Like problem-solving ability, and such. Like I said, those, who have easy life may not know, because they dont have to fight for bread.
Look at politicians, or teachers. Teachers cant imagine why kids cant learn, because their life was always mentally stabil to learn.

Complexity cant be measured. And cannot be seen. Like, only psychology is an old rusty X-ray to know that.

Do you want me to answer? I am 16. I have many things to learn, to experience. But when I will be old, I will gladly tell you.
It would be useless, you would say. Exactly. You shall reach your goals, and build up the complexity which will affect your decisions.

Sorry, my head hurts for several reasons.

[Kyousuke]

i t as long as you two love each other it doesnt matter.

[kokunin]

Originally Posted by Thunda

You mix materialism and spiritualism.
It is not the same. I think, God created us in humans body, to be equal.
I could tell many examples.
Our goal, is to be mentally and spiritually evolve, as much as we can.
While several hundred, or thousand years ago staying alive was a problem, now concentrating on our real "mission" is hard, because all adverts and materialistic things create a Fog in front of our eyes.
Although, there are different lifestyles.
Believe it or not, the harder your life is, the more you realize of this truth.
Intelligence is relative. That is why there are things we have to develop.
Like problem-solving ability, and such. Like I said, those, who have easy life may not know, because they dont have to fight for bread.
Look at politicians, or teachers. Teachers cant imagine why kids cant learn, because their life was always mentally stabil to learn.

Complexity cant be measured. And cannot be seen. Like, only psychology is an old rusty X-ray to know that.

Do you want me to answer? I am 16. I have many things to learn, to experience. But when I will be old, I will gladly tell you.
It would be useless, you would say. Exactly. You shall reach your goals, and build up the complexity which will affect your decisions.

Sorry, my head hurts for several reasons.

actually, using evolution, it can be seen and measured. velocity is the change of distance ofver time, then using that technique,going over time, form one culture to the next in what was created would show what complexity we have been able to make. But you see. We have material bodies. We ALSO have aspiitual self. I guess you can call that spirit, a sense of self. But how much do you think you would know without the family or world unit?

it has been said many times. what humans may see or hear or even feel, can all be lies....the more hardships might make it so you have built a world on lies. Or you have hardly any hardships and end up like Jesus, ne...(he supposedly created his hardships if you think about it...). And the thing about teachers isn't always true, people teach because they want to reach kids, but what the people who teach teachers is not how to reach kids, but how to shove information. teachers can teach more usefully through stories (which is why every culture has power of the story, africa has had it so long they have living libraries of people who tell stories)...

So is our mission to survive, then we would be more like reptiles in that sense. So what is our mission? I'm 19, turned today, lived in some hard times, lived in some good times...and as i think, it seems(my perspective), we are here to take care of the world. We are the only beings who make our environment and have the ability to pass HUGE (I mean HUGE) amounts of information on to the 2nd generation. I mean noone can name one animal that makes their environment and has the power to learn. Not only do we learn but we have opened the doors for expansion on our own creations. One generation dies and the next makes the first generations device even better, and even better, and even better...nothing in the animal kingdom can match that...
which comes to my next point...we have made everything around us so good that most tribal nations quit that life and began to live ours as we hit more tribal nations as U.S. and its European counterparts went around the world exploring. Where in complexity have we changed? We have not made ourselves better...so we are as simple as those who lived 200 yrs. ago. We are really just as capable as the egyptians 3000-5000 yrs. ago...so you tell me. How are we complex. Humans think with things, we compare us to them. we say 3rd world countries are primitive. And i ask, how are they different than us? We are simple beings with the ability to do amazing things is all...


Now back on subject...I don't know what love is so I want to know why the 66 yr. old dude is cool? Unless your parents married you two together, why are you with him?

[tifa]

ENOUGH!!! " do u know what love is?" " do u understand love?" ah hush up!

if ppl knew what real love is and what its all about most of the affairs and tears we cry wont be so! and besides.. love is a combination of hate and envy... love has a mixture 2 me there is no real love its a mixture! i love u but i cant stand you... i love you but i think negtive of u... i love u but i dont want 2 spend my life with you.. love has no ties and it has no bounds so hush up.. arguing with the past books of God and the present state of mankind.... they have no match... love is a state of the mind and a emotion..it has no form and it has no time limit.. understand... ok then now these people love each other r so the claim... but merits r in every relationship... so we will see... if she really loves this man study.. this " i love him hes 66...." HE IS A FOOL 66? he now finds love? he now wants to marry? hehehe hooo hoo boy oh boy .. this man was fooled but hips,tits, and ass.... and she KNOWS WELL what she wants from him... so well if she loved him so much why hurt him with worry ...dout and wonder of her cheating on him.... FOOLS THEIR LOVE IS a MERE JOKE u better marry this man and love him r i will dislike u.... prove me wrong !!!!!!!

[kokunin]

Originally Posted by tifa

ENOUGH!!! " do u know what love is?" " do u understand love?" ah hush up!

if ppl knew what real love is and what its all about most of the affairs and tears we cry wont be so! and besides.. love is a combination of hate and envy... love has a mixture 2 me there is no real love its a mixture! i love u but i cant stand you... i love you but i think negtive of u... i love u but i dont want 2 spend my life with you.. love has no ties and it has no bounds so hush up.. arguing with the past books of God and the present state of mankind.... they have no match... love is a state of the mind and a emotion..it has no form and it has no time limit.. understand... ok then now these people love each other r so the claim... but merits r in every relationship... so we will see... if she really loves this man study.. this " i love him hes 66...." HE IS A FOOL 66? he now finds love? he now wants to marry? hehehe hooo hoo boy oh boy .. this man was fooled but hips,tits, and ass.... and she KNOWS WELL what she wants from him... so well if she loved him so much why hurt him with worry ...dout and wonder of her cheating on him.... FOOLS THEIR LOVE IS a MERE JOKE u better marry this man and love him r i will dislike u.... prove me wrong !!!!!!!

if its an emotion get over it...if its an emotion its like anger or even hatred, or even happiness...those pass quickly...love has a time limit if its just an emotion, becasue then it is apart of an attitude and an attitude is probably the easiest thing to change about a person... True merits are in a relationship...but merit only goes so far, you know...its like, "Have you ever dated anyone form your own time frame and if you have could you try the guy whose not a jerk?" AND THATS what i was getting at. If love is a mood, or a mental state, or an emotion, then love goes by in those fleeting moments of passion...I'd rather say I had passionate sex than say, "I love you", to a chick without a wedding ring...you know what I'm saying, and not even a wedding is much anymore...

[kokunin]

Originally Posted by tifa

ENOUGH!!! " do u know what love is?" " do u understand love?" ah hush up!

if ppl knew what real love is and what its all about most of the affairs and tears we cry wont be so! and besides.. love is a combination of hate and envy... love has a mixture 2 me there is no real love its a mixture! i love u but i cant stand you... i love you but i think negtive of u... i love u but i dont want 2 spend my life with you.. love has no ties and it has no bounds so hush up.. arguing with the past books of God and the present state of mankind.... they have no match... love is a state of the mind and a emotion..it has no form and it has no time limit.. understand... ok then now these people love each other r so the claim... but merits r in every relationship... so we will see... if she really loves this man study.. this " i love him hes 66...." HE IS A FOOL 66? he now finds love? he now wants to marry? hehehe hooo hoo boy oh boy .. this man was fooled but hips,tits, and ass.... and she KNOWS WELL what she wants from him... so well if she loved him so much why hurt him with worry ...dout and wonder of her cheating on him.... FOOLS THEIR LOVE IS a MERE JOKE u better marry this man and love him r i will dislike u.... prove me wrong !!!!!!!

uuuh another question is , are you angry?

[Thunda]

Originally Posted by kokunin

actually, using evolution, it can be seen and measured. velocity is the change of distance ofver time, then using that technique,going over time, form one culture to the next in what was created would show what complexity we have been able to make. But you see. We have material bodies. We ALSO have aspiitual self. I guess you can call that spirit, a sense of self. But how much do you think you would know without the family or world unit?

it has been said many times. what humans may see or hear or even feel, can all be lies....the more hardships might make it so you have built a world on lies. Or you have hardly any hardships and end up like Jesus, ne...(he supposedly created his hardships if you think about it...). And the thing about teachers isn't always true, people teach because they want to reach kids, but what the people who teach teachers is not how to reach kids, but how to shove information. teachers can teach more usefully through stories (which is why every culture has power of the story, africa has had it so long they have living libraries of people who tell stories)...

So is our mission to survive, then we would be more like reptiles in that sense. So what is our mission? I'm 19, turned today, lived in some hard times, lived in some good times...and as i think, it seems(my perspective), we are here to take care of the world. We are the only beings who make our environment and have the ability to pass HUGE (I mean HUGE) amounts of information on to the 2nd generation. I mean noone can name one animal that makes their environment and has the power to learn. Not only do we learn but we have opened the doors for expansion on our own creations. One generation dies and the next makes the first generations device even better, and even better, and even better...nothing in the animal kingdom can match that...
which comes to my next point...we have made everything around us so good that most tribal nations quit that life and began to live ours as we hit more tribal nations as U.S. and its European counterparts went around the world exploring. Where in complexity have we changed? We have not made ourselves better...so we are as simple as those who lived 200 yrs. ago. We are really just as capable as the egyptians 3000-5000 yrs. ago...so you tell me. How are we complex. Humans think with things, we compare us to them. we say 3rd world countries are primitive. And i ask, how are they different than us? We are simple beings with the ability to do amazing things is all...


Now back on subject...I don't know what love is so I want to know why the 66 yr. old dude is cool? Unless your parents married you two together, why are you with him?

Not much, that is for sure. But evolution? How come? We born in a time and in a place and what surrounds us that shapes us.

Actual complexity is about how much you are more than a usual person.
A few hundred years ago, there were wise, old men (see? them again) and poets, several intelligence. They were more complex than peasants.
Just think of Aristotle, or any greek geek. They never had any paper, or anything, and knew more of Maths than I do. And I have teachers and mates who help but still.

I told you what is our mission. Think you are one sponge, and wanna take up all knowledge and experience you can. Basically this. The bigger the sponge that symbolizes your life, the better percent you completed your mission.
Again, I dont understand, how come the materialism? Of course, we eat, we shit. And? It is a thing that no thinking mind can change. We fuck too. That makes us blind in relationships. We cant do anything against it.
IN THAT WAY, we will never change of course. We are simple in this way.

But we are now examining the spiritual side of the things.
At least I do, because there are things to explore.
on our materialist side, there is nothing, and nothing to change.

And, again, Happy Birthday Mate!

okay dude. I have school tomorrow and its 2:36 am.
I get up at 6.

Good Night for me, and soon for you.

[Odin]

Originally Posted by kokunin

lol...so tell me what is love? that is the question. I mean seriously if you asked what is love...

Hmmm, man has struggled with that question for an eternity. It's a bit like asking why we exist. Maybe it's not the best definition, but somebody once told me, "When you love someone, you have their best interests in mind rather than your own. You expect nothing in return from them, and you love them unconditionally."

Originally Posted by kokunin

So you tell me, what is complex about humans?

Who said anything about complexities? Choosing whom you wish to live your life , is one of the most basic things! It is one of the core fundamentals. It has been so since before recorded history.

The question is whether the life she has chosen for herself, is acceptable. Maybe it is. Maybe she has made a mistake. Only she can determine if her reasons are valid. She would not be the first woman to choose an older man. Do not think that they only do for money or prestige, for most are not that way. You said before "...someone who has lived over half of their own life expectancy could VERY well understand someone who hasn't ..." Maybe it is as simple as, she appreciates that he understands her.

___________________________

Gackt21, what ever happens in you life. You may choose to live you life with Richard, have his childern, and start your ballet school. You may decide you wish to follow a different path. Whatever the choice, it is your choice to make. No one else's!

May peace and happiness find you for the rest of your days!

[kokunin]

Originally Posted by Thunda

Not much, that is for sure. But evolution? How come? We born in a time and in a place and what surrounds us that shapes us.

Actual complexity is about how much you are more than a usual person.
A few hundred years ago, there were wise, old men (see? them again) and poets, several intelligence. They were more complex than peasants.
Just think of Aristotle, or any greek geek. They never had any paper, or anything, and knew more of Maths than I do. And I have teachers and mates who help but still.

I told you what is our mission. Think you are one sponge, and wanna take up all knowledge and experience you can. Basically this. The bigger the sponge that symbolizes your life, the better percent you completed your mission.
Again, I dont understand, how come the materialism? Of course, we eat, we shit. And? It is a thing that no thinking mind can change. We fuck too. That makes us blind in relationships. We cant do anything against it.
IN THAT WAY, we will never change of course. We are simple in this way.

But we are now examining the spiritual side of the things.
At least I do, because there are things to explore.
on our materialist side, there is nothing, and nothing to change.

And, again, Happy Birthday Mate!

okay dude. I have school tomorrow and its 2:36 am.
I get up at 6.

Good Night for me, and soon for you.

isn't that greedy lol...there are things beings of our stature shouldn't know...lol Also the difference between genius and autism is not even a percentage of brain power...it doens't take much to think, to tell the truth (even though it takes great effort for me to do it). In that we can "experience" something, then try this...sleeping. One can experience things never before felt (and probably won't for fear of death) from dreams. You've gone on roller coasters, and if you haven't then that's okay, but if you've ever been in a falling dream, where you are going somewhere and fall off of the this tall structure of whatever kind you feel the sensation of falling, in every way...you feel the air, and feel the weird feeling in you spine as your butt/feet/ hands leave the ground, and right before you hit the bottom of whatever surface you were drawn too. you wake up, alive and well, but scared crapless (i hate surprises)...