Your Opinion in marriage ??

[MMM]

Originally Posted by tocrayzay

third option:
live together without all the legal bulljive

You realize that legal "bulljive" is to your advantage, right? It's better for you in everything from insurance to taxes.

And they make getting married pretty simple. It's so easy drunk people can do it in Las Vegas.

[Sinestra]

Originally Posted by MMM

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And they make getting married pretty simple. It's so easy drunk people can do it in Las Vegas.

yea and sometimes that presents a problem so easy a drunk person can do it lol

I dont really mind marriage one or another. I just dont think i need a piece of paper to tell me im a committed to someone and honestly the whole notion of it is silly. Any religious attributes behind it wouldnt bother me either since im not religious but if my partner was for her sake we could do the whole church thing if she wanted.

I think i read something a month ago that at least in the US the divorce rate is 54% and majority of divorces are over infidelity. I guess that piece of paper cant prove loyalty after all.

For the third option i was thinking more like "Im not sure yet" there plenty of forum members around who are still pretty young and are thinking more important things like college and a career than marriage at the moment. Another one could be "whatever floats your boat or both"

[tocrayzay]

Originally Posted by MMM

And they make getting married pretty simple. It's so easy drunk people can do it in Las Vegas.

SCARY
yeah and thats why there's marriages that last a few hours

this is the turnoff in marriage

if marriage was still a sacred thing (not in a religious sense) then maybe i wouldn't have so many doubts about it

but i still maintain that marriage is not a necessity

[Keaton421]

Originally Posted by tocrayzay

maybe it is fear but if the day comes where i'm like fuck it, i want to be able to just go and say "Peace out homeslice nice knowing ya"

I see...

Sinestra, it's not about proving anything. There are reasons that couples decide to tie the knot. Saying boyfriend/girlfriend for the rest of my life sounds pretty immature, anyway

[Sinestra]

Originally Posted by Keaton421

I see...

Sinestra, it's not about proving anything. There are reasons that couples decide to tie the knot. Saying boyfriend/girlfriend for the rest of my life sounds pretty immature, anyway

Oh i agree with you there are numerous reasons to get married under the right circumstances. My argument is i dont need a piece of paper that gives me the right to spend the rest of my life with the person i care about. Im not attacking marriage im attacking the process. I take it you love your wife very much do you need a piece of paper to show that no you dont you know how she feels and she knows how you feel. Like i said other than the religious aspects behind it i have no problem with marriage and would encourage it when its right.

I dont know if we have any Europeans posting right now. But i read that marriage in Europe as whole is on the the decline with more people choosing to just live and raise families together. Is there any truth to this?

[Keaton421]

I don't need a piece of paper to show that I love someone. The fact is, it's more than a piece of paper, in many ways. If you're not married, you can't visit your "boyfriend" in the hospital if he's been in an accident. Married couples also report less stress, more happiness, and better and more frequent sex. Married men (and I hope women) receive more frequent promotions and make more money at work. And the tax breaks, hoo boy.

If you're going to be with someone for the long haul, marriage is the smart thing to do. Saying "we don't need paper to prove love" is fanciful thinking - relationships should be about more than love, shouldn't they?

People have abused and defiled marriage, and people are always complaining about it (not marriage, but monogamy + co-habitation, the legal part isn't the bad thing) so I can see why this generation fears it

[tocrayzay]

Originally Posted by Sinestra

I dont know if we have any Europeans posting right now. But i read that marriage in Europe as whole is on the the decline with more people choosing to just live and raise families together. Is there any truth to this?

well i'm living in germany and am half german and yeah its true people will live together for ever and only get married when there is truly a need, like if they want to emigrate and they have to be married for both partners to go and stay, some do it simply for tax benefits but its not really necessary for things such as health insurance or taking care of the children
or if they know one party is going to die it legally will ensure them part of the inheritance

oh and you can get your relationship entered at the courthouse (i guess that's the equivalent) so you can have certain benefits with the hospital and things like that

[Sinestra]

Originally Posted by Keaton421

I don't need a piece of paper to show that I love someone. The fact is, it's more than a piece of paper, in many ways. If you're not married, you can't visit your "boyfriend" in the hospital if he's been in an accident. Married couples also report less stress, more happiness, and better and more frequent sex. Married men (and I hope women) receive more frequent promotions and make more money at work. And the tax breaks, hoo boy.

If you're going to be with someone for the long haul, marriage is the smart thing to do. Saying "we don't need paper to prove love" is fanciful thinking - relationships should be about more than love, shouldn't they?

People have abused and defiled marriage, and people are always complaining about it (not marriage, but monogamy + co-habitation, the legal part isn't the bad thing) so I can see why this generation fears it

Now look at the post that tocrayzay responded to about what i read. This shows that marriage as a whole is looked differently upon if different parts of the world, he said they marry if they feel the need. That means what holds true to here in the US may not be so else where. He said this about Germany and iv gotten reports from England and Sweden as well that its similar. Im curious as to why this is happening in Europe and why divorce is on the rise here.

I say do what you want if you want to get married and its not just for tax benefits or some other mute point and 2 people truly care about each other and want to share their life together then im all for it. However that seems to be rare nowadays I dont find marriage scary at all i would welcome it with the right person. What i fear is the staggering number of divorces in this country thats the scary part.

[Bureda]

1. Find a rich female specimen, bind a contract of marriage to her. Start pumping weights so you can out live her.




2. Profit!?!!?!?

[MMM]

Actually the divorce rate is down and has been dropping in the US since the peak in the 80s at about 50%. Now it is closer to 40% which is still really high, but keep in mind a lot of those people get remarried, then divorce again, so 40% of marriages end in divorce doesn't mean that 40% of people who get married also get divorced. It is lower than that. Also the divorce rate drops dramatically for first marriages between people who are over the age of 25.